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12-14-2017 | 04:31 AM
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Hi Guys
Not sure if this is the right thread for this question but I'm curious about upgrades. I understand how they will be offered by seniority, but If I come in to the company with 1000 hours of jet PIC time already would that make me eligible for upgrade sooner and how would that work?
thanks
Not sure if this is the right thread for this question but I'm curious about upgrades. I understand how they will be offered by seniority, but If I come in to the company with 1000 hours of jet PIC time already would that make me eligible for upgrade sooner and how would that work?
thanks
12-14-2017 | 04:37 AM
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The jet PIC is under part 135, but what I read in 121.436 you could also qualify time under part 91 as long as it was PIC. Either way I have that covered. I'm just curious how the company would determine it?
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12-14-2017 | 04:47 AM
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That being said, there are people hired in November with 0 company hours that have already been awarded captain.
12-14-2017 | 05:21 AM
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135 Jet PIC, 10 passenger seats or more. Or Fractional share, it spells it out in the FARs.
12-14-2017 | 05:25 AM
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Assuming the hours you have satisfy 121.436, the company will first try to fill the upgrades using their own requirements (2500 tt, 1000 at company). If there aren't enough people that meet their requirements, they will lower the requirements until they can fill all the slots. Of course they cannot lower them below the FAR requirements.
That being said, there are people hired in November with 0 company hours that have already been awarded captain.
That being said, there are people hired in November with 0 company hours that have already been awarded captain.
12-14-2017 | 05:44 AM
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You would still need 1000 hours with the company, unless they decide to lower it for you.
12-14-2017 | 07:54 AM
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You woul upgrade as soon as your seniority and company time allow. 1,000 company time and 2,500 total time are also required (in addition to the 121 time), but are waivable down if they need CAs and not enough people have those hours. Have seen company time go down to 217 on the 200.
So if you start today, everyone on the list ahead of you are more senior, but may not have the 121, so you’d upgrade before them as soon as you met the minimum company/total time. Which means you’d be on reserve for a very long time because as those more senior to you catch up on their 121 time, they will upgrade and push you down the list.
So if you start today, everyone on the list ahead of you are more senior, but may not have the 121, so you’d upgrade before them as soon as you met the minimum company/total time. Which means you’d be on reserve for a very long time because as those more senior to you catch up on their 121 time, they will upgrade and push you down the list.
Hi Guys
Not sure if this is the right thread for this question but I'm curious about upgrades. I understand how they will be offered by seniority, but If I come in to the company with 1000 hours of jet PIC time already would that make me eligible for upgrade sooner and how would that work?
thanks
Not sure if this is the right thread for this question but I'm curious about upgrades. I understand how they will be offered by seniority, but If I come in to the company with 1000 hours of jet PIC time already would that make me eligible for upgrade sooner and how would that work?
thanks
12-14-2017 | 08:57 AM
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The 217 company time on the last award is based off a pilot getting 75 hours a month from the moment the award is final til the midpoint of all the upgrade class start dates in that award.... the mid point of the classes is 2.89 months from the date the Award went final... 75 hours a month over 2.89 months makes 217 hours.
the 217 hours in 17-05 basically means 0 company time at the point where the award was final.
the 217 hours in 17-05 basically means 0 company time at the point where the award was final.
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