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Casualinterest 05-25-2019 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2826322)
Well, have you noticed the increase in Skywest 175’s in New York? Summer flying last year in New York the 900 had about 290 ish lines of flying. June schedule this year is 259 I think? I think Detroit actually is losing flying. And notice that no secondary’s were awarded on this last vacancy. I think Minnie is also down. I don’t think Atlanta grew by 30 ish lines. But maybe I’m wrong. Anyway, yes a redistribution of flying. But not just at Endeavor

Yes you're right. RAH, and OO do so much more of the RDU, ORD, BOS flying out of NY that we used to do.

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KelvinHelmholtz 05-25-2019 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by Hawk739 (Post 2826274)
Is there a specific reason that Endeavor lost flying in NYC? Is these flying going elsewhere? Or just the airline shrinking ?

Its going to other Delta regionals (RAH/OO) and the A220. The company isn’t shrinking, it’s just shifting flying to ATL for the summer. I’ve been here 2 years and I don’t see myself having the opportunity to upgrade any time soon. Growth will likely happen outside of NYC and these vacancies will be filled by senior FOs who have held off upgrading to avoid NYC.

AimHigh1 05-25-2019 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Casualinterest (Post 2826316)
So I think the moral of the story is, things are changing here and no one knows exactly what it'll look like until after every last new aircraft is through conformity and the dust has settled. But someone hired this summer will likely not be on reserve nearly as long as it has been (NYC 900). My guess...

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I've been here for a few years and this place has constantly been changing and I feel like the dust never settles! Looking forward to seeing what happens after the summer. *Fingers crossed*

Hawk739 05-25-2019 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz (Post 2826334)
Its going to other Delta regionals (RAH/OO) and the A220. The company isn’t shrinking, it’s just shifting flying to ATL for the summer. I’ve been here 2 years and I don’t see myself having the opportunity to upgrade any time soon. Growth will likely happen outside of NYC and these vacancies will be filled by senior FOs who have held off upgrading to avoid NYC.

What about the people who choose to stay in NYC? Would that open the doors for those guys to upgrade and move faster in the NY area? I mean makes sense to upgrade and move faster in NYC if a lot of people are avoiding that area...

KelvinHelmholtz 05-25-2019 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by Hawk739 (Post 2826345)
What about the people who choose to stay in NYC? Would that open the doors for those guys to upgrade and move faster in the NY area? I mean makes sense to upgrade and move faster in NYC if a lot of people are avoiding that area...

Not if they are shifting flying from NYC to other bases. There won’t even be any vacancies to upgrade in NYC, and they won’t backfill secondary vacancies. Most FOs now are taking the first upgrade now anywhere to get their DGI clock started.

Meow1215 05-25-2019 05:41 PM

The sky is not falling
 
Chill out guys, we are still 110+ pilots heavy and stagnant or better yet “stable” at the moment. That whole “massive retirement pilot shortage” is not playing out like everyone’s hopes and dreams. There is allot of DAL holdouts waiting on DGI and DAL is not hiring nearly as many pilots this year as last year.

NYC 200 has grown because ATL 200 shrunk. There is less lines in June at all bases specifically due to bid smoothing, NYC is not shrinking. It remains the junior base and the biggest. Yes, routes have shuffled however. Different discussion though.

If you recall, the plan is to have ATL 9Es largest base. That has not happened yet. Stop running around like then sky is falling because your two years in and only halfway up the seniority list.

Hawk739 05-25-2019 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2826355)
Chill out guys, we are still 110+ pilots heavy and stagnant or better yet “stable” at the moment. That whole “massive retirement pilot shortage” is not playing out like everyone’s hopes and dreams. There is allot of DAL holdouts waiting on DGI and DAL is not hiring nearly as many pilots this year as last year.

NYC 200 has grown because ATL 200 shrunk. There is less lines in June at all bases specifically due to bid smoothing, NYC is not shrinking. It remains the junior base and the biggest. Yes, routes have shuffled however. Different discussion though.

If you recall, the plan is to have ATL 9Es largest base. That has not happened yet. Stop running around like then sky is falling because your two years in and only halfway up the seniority list.


Well yeah, I’m couple hours away from ATP mins I’ve got CJO with RAH & 9E. RAH being July, 9E early September. So what you guys think ?

Meow1215 05-25-2019 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by Hawk739 (Post 2826368)
Well yeah, I’m couple hours away from ATP mins I’ve got CJO with RAH & 9E. RAH being July, 9E early September. So what you guys think ?

Depends on what is best for you.

Where do you want to be in 5 years?
Are you commuting? - this will be a major impact on this decision.
Do you want to be at someone’s hub? Care if your based at an outstation?
Do you have shiny jet syndrome?

I tell people bid/pick what you want, not what you think you can hold:
Bid the seat
Bid the base
Bid the plane

Both have pros, both have cons. It’s very circumstantial to the individual.

Hawk739 05-25-2019 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2826385)
Depends on what is best for you.

Where do you want to be in 5 years?
Are you commuting? - this will be a major impact on this decision.
Do you want to be at someone’s hub? Care if your based at an outstation?
Do you have shiny jet syndrome?

I tell people bid/pick what you want, not what you think you can hold:
Bid the seat
Bid the base
Bid the plane

Both have pros, both have cons. It’s very circumstantial to the individual.

My goal is to become a Delta pilot whatever it takes.

I’ll be commuting and NYC or ATL are my best options.

I thinking I have shiny jet syndrome lol

Anything else won’t care. Main and most important goal is to get to Delta

Meow1215 05-25-2019 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Hawk739 (Post 2826395)
My goal is to become a Delta pilot whatever it takes.

I’ll be commuting and NYC or ATL are my best options.

I thinking I have shiny jet syndrome lol

Anything else won’t care. Main and most important goal is to get to Delta

9E is a commuter airline, if you can’t get on your first flight to work - as long as number 2 is a DAL flight, company buys you a ticket to work. Not sure where your commuting from, but it could be a major challenge actually getting to your base. Check out passrider.com, see what your commuting airlines are and how frequent they go. Check for each base for each airline.

Can you reasonably commute to Republic bases? Endeavor bases?

Lose the shiny jet syndrome, you don’t get brownie points anywhere for wing mounted engine time - one exception might be China I suppose.

If DAL is your endgame, 9E has the highest rate of pilots to DAL from a regional. May be worth the gamble. It is not however guaranteed.


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