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Hawk739 05-25-2019 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2826397)
9E is a commuter airline, if you can’t get on your first flight to work - as long as number 2 is a DAL flight, company buys you a ticket to work. Not sure where your commuting from, but it could be a major challenge actually getting to your base. Check out passrider.com, see what your commuting airlines are and how frequent they go. Check for each base for each airline.

Can you reasonably commute to Republic bases? Endeavor bases?

Lose the shiny jet syndrome, you don’t get brownie points anywhere for wing mounted engine time - one exception might be China I suppose.

If DAL is your endgame, 9E has the highest rate of pilots to DAL from a regional. May be worth the gamble. It is not however guaranteed.

From where I’ll be commuting I have tons of flights daily to NY and ATL (7+) solely from Delta is 4 direct flights a day. It is awesome that 9E will buy you a ticket if you can’t jumpseat I think that is one of the reasons I would wait until September for my class date.

What I’m afraid of is I finish training by late December, will hit the line by January and I would like to complete my 100 hours of consolidation before leaving to Ft. Rucker AL in late May. Do you think it’s possible to achieve the consolidation hours in that 4 month window (January-May)?

gojo 05-25-2019 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2826355)
Chill out guys, we are still 110+ pilots heavy and stagnant or better yet “stable” at the moment. That whole “massive retirement pilot shortage” is not playing out like everyone’s hopes and dreams. There is allot of DAL holdouts waiting on DGI and DAL is not hiring nearly as many pilots this year as last year.

NYC 200 has grown because ATL 200 shrunk. There is less lines in June at all bases specifically due to bid smoothing, NYC is not shrinking. It remains the junior base and the biggest. Yes, routes have shuffled however. Different discussion though.

If you recall, the plan is to have ATL 9Es largest base. That has not happened yet. Stop running around like then sky is falling because your two years in and only halfway up the seniority list.

Lol, until the growth happens it’s just empty promises. Right now I’d wager we grew the other way from last year at this time. Delta had opportunity to deliver airplanes to us. They opted to send them to Skywest. So ya, were over staffed. Been here a while. Ymmv

Baradium 05-25-2019 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2826412)
Lol, until the growth happens it’s just empty promises. Right now I’d wager we grew the other way from last year at this time. Delta had opportunity to deliver airplanes to us. They opted to send them to Skywest. So ya, were over staffed. Been here a while. Ymmv

Didn't you just accept two additional airframes? Even if it's only promises for more, that is still growth. I think what you mean is "until the growth reaches my personal threshold."

gojo 05-25-2019 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2826417)
Didn't you just accept two additional airframes? Even if it's only promises for more, that is still growth. I think what you mean is "until the growth reaches my personal threshold."

Yup, they’re saying “two spares for summer flying.” There has been no official announcement of anything else coming our way. And even if we were going to get more 700’s, that could come to a sudden stop if they’re too expensive in conformity. Same thing happened with the ExpressJet birds. Lines of flying are still down system wide. Promises promises, they’re not here till they’re here

flydiamond 05-25-2019 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2826437)
Yup, they’re saying “two spares for summer flying.” There has been no official announcement of anything else coming our way. And even if we were going to get more 700’s, that could come to a sudden stop if they’re too expensive in conformity. Same thing happened with the ExpressJet birds. Lines of flying are still down system wide. Promises promises, they’re not here till they’re here

That’s not exactly what they said...

Casualinterest 05-26-2019 03:03 AM


Originally Posted by flydiamond (Post 2826442)
That’s not exactly what they said...

Exactly. He actually said, "officially I can announce". Hard to say nothing has been announced.

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Casualinterest 05-26-2019 03:03 AM


Originally Posted by Hawk739 (Post 2826405)
From where I’ll be commuting I have tons of flights daily to NY and ATL (7+) solely from Delta is 4 direct flights a day. It is awesome that 9E will buy you a ticket if you can’t jumpseat I think that is one of the reasons I would wait until September for my class date.



What I’m afraid of is I finish training by late December, will hit the line by January and I would like to complete my 100 hours of consolidation before leaving to Ft. Rucker AL in late May. Do you think it’s possible to achieve the consolidation hours in that 4 month window (January-May)?

Yes you should. They will force you to consolidate by scheduling you for trips if you're getting close to not consolidating.

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Hawk739 05-26-2019 03:46 AM


Originally Posted by Casualinterest (Post 2826479)
Yes you should. They will force you to consolidate by scheduling you for trips if you're getting close to not consolidating.

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Well that makes me feel better, knowing I can leave to flight school with the 100 hour consolidation, thanks

IAFDOF 05-26-2019 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by flydiamond (Post 2826094)
Crj 200 is likely, as those pilots already on the 200 back in 2017 / 2018 have their 18 month seat locks lifted and will want to get in on the growth plane.

I don’t personally foresee a mass exodus from the 200. A lot of us have outstanding schedules and QOL that would be lost if we jumped to the bigger jets right now...

Avroman 05-27-2019 03:50 AM

I look at this time as like the times in 2009 ish. The rebuilding post bankruptcy was over. We'd been told to expect 15 more 900's from Freedom. We began staffing for that then got told we'd only get 5. (that time they actually chose to furlough some new hires that ended up being offered spots at Colgan or Pinnacle) Then we had years of stagnation. No growth and basically nobody moving on either. At least now we haven't furloughed for the overstaffing, there is no sale/merger looming, and there are still some people moving on (granted mostly from the middle 1/3rd of the list). The pay and work rules are better now too. It's not the best times but it's far from the worst. I just hope this isn't heading toward the road that the 2009 road was as that just about put this place out of business.


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