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08-24-2018 | 07:15 PM
#31
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You must’ve missed where I said above that Propel Pilots will be expected to upgrade at their DCI carrier. Delta hasn’t set a minimum turbine time requirement (beyond the 1000 121 turbine) before they go to mainline. So, Delta doesn’t have to accept them at mainline without what they consider to be adequate experience.
08-24-2018 | 07:22 PM
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42 months is in a perfect world with the current movement. Delta wouldn’t back themselves into a corner so, yes, there’s a hidden asterisk on that time as far as I know.
08-25-2018 | 03:21 AM
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It must be pretty well hidden, because there's nothing saying otherwise on the Propel site or on DeltaNet. The DeltaNet FAQ is very clear that folks go to the next new hire class after 42 months of DCI flying.
08-25-2018 | 04:48 AM
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I'm beginning to think it's more about Delta advertising to keep the college aviation programs afloat, rather than finding pilots. This is so much like the EtD, they might as well have just named it that. I don't think Delta will have trouble getting applications for mainline at any point in the future.
08-25-2018 | 04:50 AM
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Again, and as far as I know, it’ll be spelled out in the paperwork the students get during the interview process. They will have to accept the rules and expectations to go forward with the program.
You’re right. As of now it’s 42 months of DCI flying and then off to mainline. Let’s do the math. To get 1000 hours should only take 18-24 months at most even if we take into account reserve flying. That still leaves another 18-24months to fly left seat if the upgrade at their DCI carrier is that fast.
Again, these aren’t hard numbers and certainly not guarantees. The flexibility in this process is purposeful while trying to give the Propel pilots some semblance of reliable expectations.
08-25-2018 | 04:52 AM
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I'm beginning to think it's more about Delta advertising to keep the college aviation programs afloat, rather than finding pilots. This is so much like the EtD, they might as well have just named it that. I don't think Delta will have trouble getting applications for mainline at any point in the future.
All three entities (the schools, DCI, and Delta) will benefit from the program. Sure, and this is me just spitballing, one or two may benefit more. A lot about this program has to evolve. Suffice it say, though, there are many great people working to make it a success.
08-25-2018 | 03:22 PM
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I'm beginning to think it's more about Delta advertising to keep the college aviation programs afloat, rather than finding pilots. This is so much like the EtD, they might as well have just named it that. I don't think Delta will have trouble getting applications for mainline at any point in the future.
08-27-2018 | 07:07 AM
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I don’t think they’re worried about getting apps. They’re worried about getting the right apps. I know 99% of the apps they get meet the minimum qualifications, but if Delta hired anybody that met Mom quals they couldn’t be so picky with who they hired. I think they’re using this program as a sort of indoctrination to the Delta way of life. They’re figuring if they can get kids young before they’ve formed any sort of bad airline bahaviors then they can mold them in their image. Sort of like the military attempts to do with basic training. Except with propel, basic training last for nearly four years.
08-28-2018 | 09:28 PM
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I don’t think they’re worried about getting apps. They’re worried about getting the right apps. I know 99% of the apps they get meet the minimum qualifications, but if Delta hired anybody that met Mom quals they couldn’t be so picky with who they hired. I think they’re using this program as a sort of indoctrination to the Delta way of life. They’re figuring if they can get kids young before they’ve formed any sort of bad airline bahaviors then they can mold them in their image. Sort of like the military attempts to do with basic training. Except with propel, basic training last for nearly four years.
Then they better find a way to manipulate crew pairings REALLY WELL. Cause otherwise these kids are going to get a special kind of OE on a lot of their trips from some of our old timers.
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