Brake Drop Delta requirement
08-28-2018 | 08:54 AM
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08-28-2018 | 09:13 AM
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08-28-2018 | 02:53 PM
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08-28-2018 | 03:17 PM
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I love how fast people like to fly. Every minute you fly faster is 1 to 2 dollars out of your check that delta gets to keep. Management loves it as management gets incentives on your OPR metrics. Keep clacking folks. Love it.
Now in regards to the OP’s message, well there’s a few things about dropping brake for push. 1, welcome to New York City. You can take those routes right out of us and enjoy your pay cut for which you can’t do squat about. 2, dropping the break for push and eliminating latency is a way Delta subsidizes their lazy ground staffers to you so you can pay for their slow performance and nothing has to get fixed. 3, if you can’t fight it, sorry. Should have worked somewhere else. No offense. Honestly. Business as usual.
Now in regards to the OP’s message, well there’s a few things about dropping brake for push. 1, welcome to New York City. You can take those routes right out of us and enjoy your pay cut for which you can’t do squat about. 2, dropping the break for push and eliminating latency is a way Delta subsidizes their lazy ground staffers to you so you can pay for their slow performance and nothing has to get fixed. 3, if you can’t fight it, sorry. Should have worked somewhere else. No offense. Honestly. Business as usual.
08-28-2018 | 05:40 PM
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I love how fast people like to fly. Every minute you fly faster is 1 to 2 dollars out of your check that delta gets to keep. Management loves it as management gets incentives on your OPR metrics. Keep clacking folks. Love it.
Now in regards to the OP’s message, well there’s a few things about dropping brake for push. 1, welcome to New York City. You can take those routes right out of us and enjoy your pay cut for which you can’t do squat about. 2, dropping the break for push and eliminating latency is a way Delta subsidizes their lazy ground staffers to you so you can pay for their slow performance and nothing has to get fixed. 3, if you can’t fight it, sorry. Should have worked somewhere else. No offense. Honestly. Business as usual.
Now in regards to the OP’s message, well there’s a few things about dropping brake for push. 1, welcome to New York City. You can take those routes right out of us and enjoy your pay cut for which you can’t do squat about. 2, dropping the break for push and eliminating latency is a way Delta subsidizes their lazy ground staffers to you so you can pay for their slow performance and nothing has to get fixed. 3, if you can’t fight it, sorry. Should have worked somewhere else. No offense. Honestly. Business as usual.
08-28-2018 | 06:42 PM
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Sure, but the stars have to align properly for that to happen, especially with the built in buffers in NYC. I've seen captains taxi painfully slow and purposely not set the brake to squeeze an extra cheeseburger out of Delta. At some point, you have to be a professional.
08-28-2018 | 09:52 PM
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I'm with SkyWest, very senior. This is not a slam on any airline or anybody.
We recently got a new requirement that we can't drop the parking brake until we have been cleared to push. For some domiciles there are typically 10 minute delays to push, thus this is a big pay cut. We have no recourse to battle this as we have zilch representation.
My question for this group is this new rule been put to your pilots and what are your union reps able to do about it?
It was reported that your MEC told your management "NO" to what is basically a pay cut? This being said I'm presuming your time begins at parking brake drop?
Just looking for some info to pass along to the SkyWest pilot group.
Again this is not a jab at anybody or any pilot group.
Thanks for any info!
We recently got a new requirement that we can't drop the parking brake until we have been cleared to push. For some domiciles there are typically 10 minute delays to push, thus this is a big pay cut. We have no recourse to battle this as we have zilch representation.
My question for this group is this new rule been put to your pilots and what are your union reps able to do about it?
It was reported that your MEC told your management "NO" to what is basically a pay cut? This being said I'm presuming your time begins at parking brake drop?
Just looking for some info to pass along to the SkyWest pilot group.
Again this is not a jab at anybody or any pilot group.
Thanks for any info!
08-28-2018 | 10:03 PM
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For us it was a two fold response to the company. Yes, we said “Umm.. no” to the company’s drive to keep the brake up until push but we also spoke to them in words they’d understand. “You either want on-time departures or you want to fix latency. Can’t have both, take your pick.” As others have said, without an actual union, I wish y’all the best of luck.
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