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Old 08-26-2018 | 06:02 PM
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I'm with SkyWest, very senior. This is not a slam on any airline or anybody.

We recently got a new requirement that we can't drop the parking brake until we have been cleared to push. For some domiciles there are typically 10 minute delays to push, thus this is a big pay cut. We have no recourse to battle this as we have zilch representation.

My question for this group is this new rule been put to your pilots and what are your union reps able to do about it?

It was reported that your MEC told your management "NO" to what is basically a pay cut? This being said I'm presuming your time begins at parking brake drop?

Just looking for some info to pass along to the SkyWest pilot group.

Again this is not a jab at anybody or any pilot group.

Thanks for any info!
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Old 08-26-2018 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
I'm with SkyWest, very senior. This is not a slam on any airline or anybody.

We recently got a new requirement that we can't drop the parking brake until we have been cleared to push. For some domiciles there are typically 10 minute delays to push, thus this is a big pay cut. We have no recourse to battle this as we have zilch representation.

My question for this group is this new rule been put to your pilots and what are your union reps able to do about it?

It was reported that your MEC told your management "NO" to what is basically a pay cut? This being said I'm presuming your time begins at parking brake drop?

Just looking for some info to pass along to the SkyWest pilot group.

Again this is not a jab at anybody or any pilot group.

Thanks for any info!
Drop the hammer... Make that money.
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Old 08-26-2018 | 06:23 PM
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Problem is at SkyWest we are an "at will" employment ruling.

Management can and will and has fired people for any reason, word is a 6 year Captain was fired last week because it was reported he was on the organizing commitee.

They will fire a few just to make a statement like they have done many times before.
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Old 08-26-2018 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
Problem is at SkyWest we are an "at will" employment ruling.

Management can and will and has fired people for any reason, word is a 6 year Captain was fired last week because it was reported he was on the organizing commitee.

They will fire a few just to make a statement like they have done many times before.
Well then, duh!

Get a union.
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Old 08-26-2018 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
Problem is at SkyWest we are an "at will" employment ruling.

Management can and will and has fired people for any reason, word is a 6 year Captain was fired last week because it was reported he was on the organizing commitee.

They will fire a few just to make a statement like they have done many times before.
Eh, not my problem. You asked what we do here. We drop the hammer and get paid, and we got 27 years of past practice backing us up. Came up about a year ago, management was trying something similar. We were right, they were wrong.

Do whatever you gotta do to keep your job. Cheers. Ill be dropping the hammer.
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Old 08-26-2018 | 06:44 PM
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Well then, duh!

Get a union.
That won't fix it. Maybe after 5-7 years, and their pilot group doesn't want a union anyhow so who cares. They're too good for it. Some of them still believe they make more than us.
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Old 08-26-2018 | 07:07 PM
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If you all drop it when the doors closed. And they fire you all who’s going to fly the aircraft. Do what you’ve always done. Eventually Chip will get the idea.
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Old 08-26-2018 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Philknight
If you all drop it when the doors closed. And they fire you all who’s going to fly the aircraft. Do what you’ve always done. Eventually Chip will get the idea.
Pilots act in unity? Especially non union?

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Old 08-26-2018 | 07:40 PM
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Our management tried this about a year ago. We politely passed since that significantly affected our pay during IROPS and during NYC in general. Hasn't come up since. Instead, we now just don't turn the beacon on until ready to push lol.
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Old 08-26-2018 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
I'm with SkyWest, very senior. This is not a slam on any airline or anybody.

We recently got a new requirement that we can't drop the parking brake until we have been cleared to push. For some domiciles there are typically 10 minute delays to push, thus this is a big pay cut. We have no recourse to battle this as we have zilch representation.

My question for this group is this new rule been put to your pilots and what are your union reps able to do about it?

It was reported that your MEC told your management "NO" to what is basically a pay cut? This being said I'm presuming your time begins at parking brake drop?

Just looking for some info to pass along to the SkyWest pilot group.

Again this is not a jab at anybody or any pilot group.

Thanks for any info!
There's going to be a big rise in flights blocking out late if they try this. Once it starts hurting their performance, it will go back to the old ways, IMO
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