Originally Posted by EDVPLT

I understand we are losing a benefit and it sucks, like I said I would rather keep the shuttle but in the end TW and RE don’t make the decisions, Delta does. If it was up to them I am sure they wouldn’t care giving everyone $200 but Delta told them they have to keep it within the current budget I am sure.

Honestly who cares if it takes 1 hour to get to/from the airport if you are just going to go sit in a basement as you say, there is more of a argument to people that live in NY and have to waste their time but I would say very few people live around Kew and I could care less if it takes me 1 hour via public or 20 min via shuttle.

Same thing with the DH Upgrade, there is nothing EDV management can do other than say to Delta management that we are not happy about it. They have done that, specifially Garrison, and Delta has done nothing to fix it because they don’t care and remember this is all DCI not just us.

We get treated pretty good here but we are a regional and it seems a lot of people forget that. We are NOT Delta, we are NOT Delta employees. While I hate the regional model and wish it dies, we are very well paid here with a pretty good contract ,that yes can use improvements.

And who cares about TWOP, they are not forcing a single person to take it, if you don’t wanna take it then don’t, it’s that simple.

Originally Posted by JulesWinfield

Traveling via public transportation in uniform is at best, a big convenience, at worst, a big safety issue for some of our employees. Being in uniform lugging around bags with potential valuables puts a big target on your back, since everyone knows pilots "make a lot of money". I ride the E train quite a bit, and there is about an 80% that you will run into someone bothering you for money, dancing in the the aisle for tips, or a crazy person ranting about God knows what.

The Q10 to JFK isn't quite as bad, but it is always full and it is hard to lug your bags around, and you still feel like you have a target on your back when traveling in uniform.

If we didn't have the dual base, I would move to a crashpad that wouldn't require a trip on the train. I believe Envoy has a crew shuttle that runs from Terminal B to Kew/JFK.

Originally Posted by msprj2

Funny how the NY pilots complained about the shuttle and the company listened.

Originally Posted by JulesWinfield

Traveling via public transportation in uniform is at best, a big convenience, at worst, a big safety issue for some of our employees. Being in uniform lugging around bags with potential valuables puts a big target on your back, since everyone knows pilots "make a lot of money". I ride the E train quite a bit, and there is about an 80% that you will run into someone bothering you for money, dancing in the the aisle for tips, or a crazy person ranting about God knows what.

The Q10 to JFK isn't quite as bad, but it is always full and it is hard to lug your bags around, and you still feel like you have a target on your back when traveling in uniform.

If we didn't have the dual base, I would move to a crashpad that wouldn't require a trip on the train. I believe Envoy has a crew shuttle that runs from Terminal B to Kew/JFK.

Originally Posted by JulesWinfield

Traveling via public transportation in uniform is at best, a big convenience, at worst, a big safety issue for some of our employees. Being in uniform lugging around bags with potential valuables puts a big target on your back, since everyone knows pilots "make a lot of money". I ride the E train quite a bit, and there is about an 80% that you will run into someone bothering you for money, dancing in the the aisle for tips, or a crazy person ranting about God knows what.

The Q10 to JFK isn't quite as bad, but it is always full and it is hard to lug your bags around, and you still feel like you have a target on your back when traveling in uniform.

If we didn't have the dual base, I would move to a crashpad that wouldn't require a trip on the train. I believe Envoy has a crew shuttle that runs from Terminal B to Kew/JFK.

Originally Posted by Punkah Louvre

I'm really sorry some folks have been negatively affected by this. I know the complaints were because the shuttle didn't offer enough flexibility; and people wanted more.
For people who live in NYC this is a plus. We didn't get paid parking (because most of us don't drive..) or the $40 stipend.
As far as riding the subway in uniform; I do it ll the time It's a tough town, but its friendly. Put your headphones on and you won't be bothered. its the safest large city in US by far.
And the dancing can be fun.. :-)

Originally Posted by Boats and Hos

We were and will always be a target ESPECIALLY IN NYC!

Originally Posted by ninerdriver

I was walking around Kew in my street clothes last week. Some random stranger walked up to me and asked, "hey, do you work for Endeavor?" When I politely said, "well, yes, I do," they punched me in the face. I needed twelve stitches.

I always hide my hat in public now.