Fourpaw

But wait, Delta pilots are superior to us....? There’s no way they could be up to the shenanigans of a regional pilot. Someone who spent 250 hours single seat of a fighter jet is fully qualified for 121 ops....and it shows hello?!?!?!

darkman62

I am so tired of these guys with 3 years total experience telling me that I have an attitude or am unprofessional because I choose to be a realist with a new MGR decides his new and improved is actually tried & failed but they where not around to see it. I don’t need to wear a hat or make gate announcements to show I care about my profession. I would much rather have a crusty person around when it gets difficult yet some shiny oh the Co told me this flying we me anytime

ShyGuy

What does the book say? Is there a note allowing taxiing while starting the second engine via crossbleed? What else does "set" mean? Parking brakes are either set or released, or on/off. Maybe "as required" would be better. Years ago at 9E at least the couple CAs I flew with that did this (almost all at LGA) would say something like hey, if you're okay lets just crossbleed this while I slowly move, I know what the checklist says, I just don't wanna block everyone behind." I can see that and appreciate the honesty. If you're gonna break SOP you should at least give the FO a heads up about it. How are you arguing parking brake set is something other than set?


Here's something more clear, from another airline:

—Parking Brake . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . As Required
NOTE: Engine No. 2 may be started while taxiing


Don't take it for granted though. The SpanAir MD80 that took off with no flaps, the FO read the final checklist as Flaps "8, 8, 8, aligned" apparently the three different places you see the flap indication (main panel in front, the actual flap handle, and then another flap position indicator on the center console). He said it in a rushed fashion. The crew was hot, delayed, and wanted to get off the ground after already having returned to the gate for a MX issue. They took with flaps 0 and crashed. The investigators noted that the normal response to this item was always 8, 8, 8 (or whatever the flap setting is). When you say something or see something the same way over and over again, it is very easy to just say it without really having seen it. This is especially true when you're rushed, tired, fatigued, etc.

I do remember reading a safety report about a CR2 crew taking the runway with one engine still off. Didn't power up for takeoff, but realized it was off as they got onto the runway.

ShyGuy

You mean like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyqQ4lfWz3M


Gotta love the controller. "Well, that's an exiting aircraft, so don't hit him, and continue to your gate." LOL

and of course the Delta pilot gave a typical Capt' Happy response And big bad boy also wants a phone number!


"Lighten up Francis!"



"Wish you RJ guys would be a little more professional."

- a fellow double breasted airman

TalkTurkey

Mad dog has not been a culprit of this event in the previous 5 years. It’s 4 717s and a 777. Lol.

TalkTurkey

Can anyone interpret what this guy is saying? Reads like the transcript of a person going into a coma.

vessbot

He thinks there's a forced choice between having the experience to be able to handle difficult situations, and making gate announcements.

vessbot

Speaking of forced choices, here's one that actually is one. A start procedure can either be "absolutely no difference" compared to a normal start, or cook the engine. It can only be one or the other, you can't have both!

theUpsideDown

*Ghost noises* The fadec starts itself *echoing* just push the button in idle *chains crashing and unholy noises scream and echo through the thread*


Rrrroooooossssssssseeeeeeebbbbuuddd

Sperrysan

The RJ guys are a little professional, it is a little plane.