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Old 11-22-2019, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ChuckMK23 View Post
This is a good a place to ask as any - and didn't want or need to start a new thread. But what happens to new hires who are not performing well in training - especially in academics. Lets say a failure of a single test or two failures. It happens. But how is it handled at EDV? Are you given a chance to withdraw? **** happens - just wondering what others have seen. Lets suppose you and Training agree this is not the place for you....
It depends on the test. Two failures of written tests during ground school will send you packing. If you pay attention in class and study, those should be no problem.

PTs and sims? They're more forgiving if you're putting in the effort and showing some improvement.
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Old 11-22-2019, 01:08 PM
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An announcement announcing future additions doesn’t improve flight hours today or in 6 months. You’re trying to say “look over here at all the new shiny things coming” when the current state isn’t indicating a need to ramp up hiring even more aggressively from current levels. Classes are already healthy sizes, new FOs don’t fly over 30 hrs, and it takes how long to hold a line?! The only reason I might have missed the announcement is because I yawned through it.
From looking at your post history I can see that you have vast experience in airline management. Do tell us exactly how Many they should hire and at what pace. If you’re unhappy it looks to me like a lateral move wouldn’t cost you much. H$!!, maybe give management a try
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:32 PM
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From looking at your post history I can see that you have vast experience in airline management. Do tell us exactly how Many they should hire and at what pace. If you’re unhappy it looks to me like a lateral move wouldn’t cost you much. H$!!, maybe give management a try
I’m simply forming my opinion based on current conditions vs management’s “future”. I respect your opinion, just stating my POV. Looking back at your post history, you seem to be very pro-management or a Propel grad 🤣
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Old 11-22-2019, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by QuickBrief View Post
An announcement announcing future additions doesn’t improve flight hours today or in 6 months. You’re trying to say “look over here at all the new shiny things coming” when the current state isn’t indicating a need to ramp up hiring even more aggressively from current levels. Classes are already healthy sizes, new FOs don’t fly over 30 hrs, and it takes how long to hold a line?! The only reason I might have missed the announcement is because I yawned through it.
Maybe you don't realize that this announcement was years coming for us, and a lot of us were waiting desperately for this. If this growth didn't come you would likely have been furloughed and forced to start over elsewhere. If you can't be grateful at least for that then you either need some perspective or you should just leave. I'm not saying it hasn't been hard. Those of us that upgraded in 2018 haven't had it much better. We have been staring down the barrel of 18 months of reserve with 25 hours per month of tpic. I'm sorry you, (and a bunch of other pilots) got here at a bad time, and have had a rough go of it. But it could be a lot worse, and "yawning" through a major announcement that saved a lot of jobs and guaranteed a future for this company is immature at best.

They'll need 10-20 new pilots per month to staff the new aircraft, and 20-40 a month to keep up with attrition. Your flying will go up. You will hold a line. It will get better. And if you don't believe me, there are plenty of other places hiring.

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Old 11-24-2019, 02:30 AM
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Yea this isn't the near instant upgrades and shortly after, line holder of a few years ago. But ask the guys that started at Mesaba 15-17 years ago how fun their career has been... Or heck fly with a 20 year MSP captain and ask their perspective.
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Old 11-24-2019, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ChuckMK23 View Post
This is a good a place to ask as any - and didn't want or need to start a new thread. But what happens to new hires who are not performing well in training - especially in academics. Lets say a failure of a single test or two failures. It happens. But how is it handled at EDV? Are you given a chance to withdraw? **** happens - just wondering what others have seen. Lets suppose you and Training agree this is not the place for you....
Failing the written tests probably means being a professional pilot is not for you.
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Old 11-24-2019, 03:45 AM
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Failing the written tests probably means being a professional pilot is not for you.
But his question is are guys given a chance to withdraw, and the answer is yes.
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Old 11-24-2019, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
Failing the written tests probably means being a professional pilot is not for you.
I hope that is sarcasm.
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Old 11-24-2019, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Avroman View Post
Yea this isn't the near instant upgrades and shortly after, line holder of a few years ago. But ask the guys that started at Mesaba 15-17 years ago how fun their career has been... Or heck fly with a 20 year MSP captain and ask their perspective.
No thanks. I'm okay. positive vibes only dude.
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Old 11-29-2019, 05:07 PM
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Any speculation on what the next step is for the progression for all campaigns is?
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