Junior LUS pilots beware
#1
Junior LUS pilots beware
An excerpt from a letter circulating among junior AA pilots, written by a 4/14 LAA newhire.
"To give you some background that may not have occurred to you, US Airways has been hiring since late 2010. In fact, prior to December 9, 2013, they hired approximately 750 pilots – all but 50-70 of which were hired under the pre-greenbook contract. The demographics of those pilots – median age of hire was 27, expected to go to the right seat of an Embraer (no other legacy airline flies group 1 aircraft currently). Most came from the right seat of a regional as they could not recruit many of the highly qualified applicants that held out for American. Median hours of new hires were 1800-3000 total time with minimal, if any, pilot in command time. The demographic of the Legacy AA new hires from October 2013 until the hiring process was streamlined in August 2014: median age 40-45, expected to go the right seat of group 2 or group 3 aircraft at an airline that had not hired since 2001, with 6000-10000 median hours total time and 2000-4000 pilot in command hours. The apples to apples comparison of new hires didn’t occur until August 2014 when new hires for both groups went through one hiring and selection process."
I guess the AArogance is part of indoc?
"To give you some background that may not have occurred to you, US Airways has been hiring since late 2010. In fact, prior to December 9, 2013, they hired approximately 750 pilots – all but 50-70 of which were hired under the pre-greenbook contract. The demographics of those pilots – median age of hire was 27, expected to go to the right seat of an Embraer (no other legacy airline flies group 1 aircraft currently). Most came from the right seat of a regional as they could not recruit many of the highly qualified applicants that held out for American. Median hours of new hires were 1800-3000 total time with minimal, if any, pilot in command time. The demographic of the Legacy AA new hires from October 2013 until the hiring process was streamlined in August 2014: median age 40-45, expected to go the right seat of group 2 or group 3 aircraft at an airline that had not hired since 2001, with 6000-10000 median hours total time and 2000-4000 pilot in command hours. The apples to apples comparison of new hires didn’t occur until August 2014 when new hires for both groups went through one hiring and selection process."
I guess the AArogance is part of indoc?
#4
I have the breakdown of a January 2013 LUS New Hire Class
13 Total: 9 CIV / 4 MIL
9 CIV: 5-Regional Captains, 1-Prior LCC/Former Regional Captain, 1-135 Captain, 2-Regional FO
(2 prior Check Airman, 1 prior Assistant CP, 1 prior interview team member)
4 MIL: C-5, C-12, C-17, E-2
15 years younger and senior is the 27 year old LUS pilot to whom the AA lady/gentleman wrote this letter about. Good for the 27 year old!
13 Total: 9 CIV / 4 MIL
9 CIV: 5-Regional Captains, 1-Prior LCC/Former Regional Captain, 1-135 Captain, 2-Regional FO
(2 prior Check Airman, 1 prior Assistant CP, 1 prior interview team member)
4 MIL: C-5, C-12, C-17, E-2
15 years younger and senior is the 27 year old LUS pilot to whom the AA lady/gentleman wrote this letter about. Good for the 27 year old!
#6
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Joined APC: Mar 2013
Posts: 63
As a Jan poolie waiting for a class date how should this concern me? Either way I have no control over this situation. Yes it's frustration watching younger guys (and gals) getting hired first but I know I'll be bottom of the pile for a while. Any thoughts or concerns I should be looking out for?
#9
What should we "beware" of?
That there is yet another group of ****ed of pilots? The constructive notice date is the ONE thing that has been agreed to. I doubt the APA is going to waste negotiating capital trying to boost AA new hires over LUS new hires. Hell, I'm a LUS hire and APA has represented me far longer than USAPA. Anybody that was gunning for a job at American and didn't have an app in with US Airways was being very short sided.
Other funny thing about the group I claim. Guess where every single AA OTS hire goes right now? That's right 190 to PHL.
Nothing to see here. I'm guessing this is from a Facebook page or something. Yet another reason for me to not use Facebook.
That there is yet another group of ****ed of pilots? The constructive notice date is the ONE thing that has been agreed to. I doubt the APA is going to waste negotiating capital trying to boost AA new hires over LUS new hires. Hell, I'm a LUS hire and APA has represented me far longer than USAPA. Anybody that was gunning for a job at American and didn't have an app in with US Airways was being very short sided.
Other funny thing about the group I claim. Guess where every single AA OTS hire goes right now? That's right 190 to PHL.
Nothing to see here. I'm guessing this is from a Facebook page or something. Yet another reason for me to not use Facebook.
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