View Poll Results: How many do you think we will furlough
No furloughs
15
23.81%
0 - 100
3
4.76%
101 - 200
11
17.46%
201 - 300
9
14.29%
301 - 400
3
4.76%
400+
22
34.92%
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Will We Furlough?
08-04-2020, 08:18 PM
#31
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,205
That doesn’t preclude the company could whipsaw the flying to other regional partners.
There’s surplus of pilots now in the industry. Look at what UAL did to Xjet. Be vigilant, no one is safe until we are on the other side of the pandemic.
There’s surplus of pilots now in the industry. Look at what UAL did to Xjet. Be vigilant, no one is safe until we are on the other side of the pandemic.
08-04-2020, 08:37 PM
#32
On Guard!
Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 1,181
Originally Posted by PilotJ3
That doesn’t preclude the company could whipsaw the flying to other regional partners.
There’s surplus of pilots now in the industry. Look at what UAL did to Xjet. Be vigilant, no one is safe until we are on the other side of the pandemic.
There’s surplus of pilots now in the industry. Look at what UAL did to Xjet. Be vigilant, no one is safe until we are on the other side of the pandemic.
08-05-2020, 02:34 PM
#33
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Posts: 326
Originally Posted by Meow1215
There is only 1 other 200 operator, that contract has already been moved to an early end. At the moment DAL has heartburn issuing CPAs to FFD carriers as they continue to pulldown flying. If they cancel a YX/OO flight, DAL still pays for it. If they cancel a 9E flight, DAL pays for the crew PROT price. We are cheap and controllable, no regional is safe - yes. But we have a somewhat secure position all things considered.
08-05-2020, 08:34 PM
#34
On Guard!
Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 1,181
Originally Posted by Milksheikh
I believe OO has been waiving the min contractual flying for delta up until sept 30 but won’t any further. After that delta doesn’t have to give them any more flying but they will pay skywest for a full schedule so it would only make sense to give them flying they are going to pay for it anyway. As you said, it costs delta essentially nothing to reduce edvs flying, but they have to pay skywest at least the contractual min. The only other operator for delta is republic who it appears also will be getting reduced flying.
08-06-2020, 07:28 AM
#35
Will FTI for food...
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 388
Originally Posted by Meow1215
50 planes were scheduled to come off contract on 12/31/2020. DAL negotiated an early out on 25 of them, the other 25 are coming offline. That’s in OOs corporate filings. Yes, I believe OO made a deal to give short-term concessions on FFDs in exchange for probably some future 175 flying or something. But it doesn’t change the fact that DAL doesn’t want to enter into CPAs with an uncertain future. I would bet that they will negotiate further early outs for existing CPAs if it means saving money today. DAL has proven time and again that a contract means nothing to them. See EV, CP, G7, DL.
-J. Wellington Wimpy
08-09-2020, 02:40 PM
#38
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Joined APC: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,648
Originally Posted by Spoiler
Then there is force majeure...
just sayin'
just sayin'
08-09-2020, 02:44 PM
#39
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Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,281
Originally Posted by gojo
Delta and Skywest seem to have a pretty good relationship. They always seem to come out on top. For starters, look at the last update. Skywest is now doing more daily departures than Endeavor by almost 100. If Delta sticks it to anyone it’ll probably be Endeavor or Republic
08-09-2020, 03:08 PM
#40
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Originally Posted by gojo
Delta and Skywest seem to have a pretty good relationship. They always seem to come out on top. For starters, look at the last update. Skywest is now doing more daily departures than Endeavor by almost 100. If Delta sticks it to anyone it’ll probably be Endeavor or Republic
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