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Past V1 10-02-2013 12:29 PM

If he comes back with new intel on how his award works now, I would almost think that we should be able to re-bid based on the new information.

ShyGuy 10-02-2013 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1495182)
Supposedly, a week, to a couple weeks to get an answer. What a fraud that guy is......rack up those billable hours buddy.

Do you blame him? I still remember before this process started as part of the process and protocol agreement all 3 pilot group union leaders decided to use only one arbitrator - Bloch. Every legacy airline has used several for SLI purposes (Delta/NWA, United/CAL). But these guys thought they were smart and would stick with just one.

Frankly, Bloch should milk it as much and as long as he can. Hopefully a harsh lesson learned for the 9E union "leaders."

Mesabah 10-02-2013 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1495190)
Do you blame him? I still remember before this process started as part of the process and protocol agreement all 3 pilot group union leaders decided to use only one arbitrator - Bloch. Every legacy airline has used several for SLI purposes (Delta/NWA, United/CAL). But these guys thought they were smart and would stick with just one.

Frankly, Bloch should milk it as much and as long as he can. Hopefully a harsh lesson learned for the 9E union "leaders."

It's not the union leaders, it's the conflict of interest in ALPA rearing its ugly head. What should have happened is the 9E MEC should have sued the Colgan group, and tied the SLI up in court for years over the 2007 scope violation. If that had happened, the Colgan pilots would be choosing between a staple job or nothing. That did not happen because of the ALPA merger policy.

Right now ALPA is fighting the Emirates thing to protect Delta pilots, but I'm sure if ALPA could represent the Emirates pilots, that fight would disappear so fast your head would spin. Just wait till ALPA gets the ability to represent foreign nationals with the ab-intio and cabotage programs. We pilots will be lucky to get jobs at McDonald's after that happens. Let's just hope they pay $15 an hour by then.

CAPTAINPCL 10-03-2013 08:12 PM

Bloch's ruling
 
Fellow Pilots,

Arbitrator Bloch has ruled that the DRC had the jurisdiction to provide the Dec 2012 interpretation of the Conditions and Restrictions contained within the Bloch Award. Realignment 13-02 was processed utilizing the Dec 2012 interpretation, and we have asked the Company to publish 13-02 now that Arbitrator Bloch has ruled.

As Pinnacle was below 541 CRJ-200 CA postions, no premerger Pinnacle pilot was displaced from the CRJ-200 CA position by a Mesaba or Colgan pilot. Mesaba pilots could displace to the CRJ-200 CA position provided there was a junior premerger Mesaba or Colgan pilot to displace in the CRJ-200 CA position. Colgan pilots could displace to CRJ-200 CA position provided there was a junior Colgan pilot to displace in the CRJ-200 CA position. Colgan could also displace to the CRJ-200 CA position provided a junior Mesaba pilot was in the CRJ-200 position and such a displacement would not cause Mesaba to maintain less than 100 CRJ-200 CA positions.

The Endeavor Air DRC

screwdriver 10-04-2013 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1495235)
It's not the union leaders, it's the conflict of interest in ALPA rearing its ugly head. What should have happened is the 9E MEC should have sued the Colgan group, and tied the SLI up in court for years over the 2007 scope violation. If that had happened, the Colgan pilots would be choosing between a staple job or nothing. That did not happen because of the ALPA merger policy.

Right now ALPA is fighting the Emirates thing to protect Delta pilots, but I'm sure if ALPA could represent the Emirates pilots, that fight would disappear so fast your head would spin. Just wait till ALPA gets the ability to represent foreign nationals with the ab-intio and cabotage programs. We pilots will be lucky to get jobs at McDonald's after that happens. Let's just hope they pay $15 an hour by then.


You are a tool. That is all.

Saabs 10-04-2013 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by CAPTAINPCL (Post 1496026)
Fellow Pilots,

Arbitrator Bloch has ruled that the DRC had the jurisdiction to provide the Dec 2012 interpretation of the Conditions and Restrictions contained within the Bloch Award. Realignment 13-02 was processed utilizing the Dec 2012 interpretation, and we have asked the Company to publish 13-02 now that Arbitrator Bloch has ruled.

As Pinnacle was below 541 CRJ-200 CA postions, no premerger Pinnacle pilot was displaced from the CRJ-200 CA position by a Mesaba or Colgan pilot. Mesaba pilots could displace to the CRJ-200 CA position provided there was a junior premerger Mesaba or Colgan pilot to displace in the CRJ-200 CA position. Colgan pilots could displace to CRJ-200 CA position provided there was a junior Colgan pilot to displace in the CRJ-200 CA position. Colgan could also displace to the CRJ-200 CA position provided a junior Mesaba pilot was in the CRJ-200 position and such a displacement would not cause Mesaba to maintain less than 100 CRJ-200 CA positions.

The Endeavor Air DRC

What does this mean? More importantly what does Shy Guy think?!?!

Bartok 10-04-2013 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1496237)
What does this mean? More importantly what does Shy Guy think?!?!

It means, it's published......

Finally.

Farmlover 10-04-2013 09:46 AM

This place is gonna fall apart

Snickers 10-04-2013 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by Farmlover (Post 1496251)
This place is gonna fall apart

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10char

Mesabah 10-04-2013 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by screwdriver (Post 1496207)
You are a tool. That is all.

You were purchased by Pinnacle management in 2007 to be an alter ego to the 9E pilots. ALPA saved you at the expense of other Pinnacle pilots, it's the truth.


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