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vilcas 12-31-2013 07:19 AM

I did not forecast the 200 leaving in 2014 it's part of the fleet reduction plan and in 2014 there are less airframes leaving than pilots going to delta. I am using a 10 pilots to airplane ratio. Not sure if that is good enough for FAR 117 but one has to reasonably expect pilots will continue to leave to other airlines other than delta. The company is hiring because they need pilots they have as a stated goal not to hire pilots they will have to turn around and furlough. Unofficially Delta would like to leave about 70 CRJ 200 aircraft at endeavor that's about 150 total aircraft with a need for about 800 captains. Even in the near future you will need to begin upgrade first officers to handle the attrition. In 2015, and this is forecast, I see our end state around 150 airframes but this is contingent on staffing like the movie field of dreams but in reverse if you come they will build it. In this case they are experimenting with endeavor and they are spending millions on the experiment.

Duke990 12-31-2013 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by vilcas (Post 1550049)
Unofficially Delta would like to leave about 70 CRJ 200 aircraft at endeavor

Officially Delta plans to park all of the CRJ-200's at 9E. Let's revisit the last couple years.

1) DL pilots signed a new contract that allows only 125 50-seat aircraft by the end of 2015.
2) DL shuts down Comair and gets to park all of their CRJ-200's in the desert.
3) DL inks a deal with Skywest/ASA to park CRJ-200's in return for Comair's CRJ-700's/CRJ-900's
4) There are only two other 50-seat operators in DL's system...9E and Chautauqua. DL controls 9E through the BK and decided the remaining 50-seat jets to be parked are 9E's

A couple years ago there were about 350 50-seat aircraft under DCI. The Skywest deal (66 CRJ-200's) and the parking of Comair's CRJ-200's left about 265 50-seat jets flying for DL. That means that 140 airplanes from either Chautauqua or Pinnacle HAVE to be gone in 2 years. DL has signed contracts with all of their other feed and can't get rid of those 50-seaters without penalties. Who do you think will lose here? My guess is DL's wholly owned stepchild.

Oh, and the memo from the new 9E CEO gave a lot of false hope with his memo a couple months ago. Nowhere does it say they WILL or SHALL keep the flying. Only a bunch of catch phrases to attempt to draw in gullible new-hires.

"Previously, we communicated that our long-term business plan called for Endeavor to operate a fleet of 81 CRJ-900’s and that over the course of the next several years, all of our CRJ-200 aircraft would be retired. Delta Air Lines has now indicated that it plans to retain at least 100 CRJ-200’s in its overall Delta Connection network. Given our improving operational reliability, competitive cost structure and our relatively young CRJ-200 fleet, Endeavor is well positioned to retain a significant portion of our current 50-seat aircraft for the foreseeable future. Delta is confident in our ability to operate these aircraft in an efficient, cost effective, and customer focused manner. Retaining these aircraft will allow us to provide ongoing career opportunities for the pilots, flight attendants, maintenance technicians and dispatchers who operate these aircraft. Undoubtedly, our focus on reliability, continuous operational improvement and our customers has positively influenced Delta’s desire to have Endeavor continue operating CRJ-200’s."

buddies8 12-31-2013 08:01 AM

with a few changes in name and maybe instead of have use could the rest of the message is the same that eagle pilots get. must be from the same lorenzo school of management. Politicians lie everyday why would airline management be ant different

"Previously, we communicated that our long-term business plan called for Endeavor to operate a fleet of 81 CRJ-900’s and that over the course of the next several years, all of our CRJ-200 aircraft would be retired. Delta Air Lines has now indicated that it plans to retain at least 100 CRJ-200’s in its overall Delta Connection network. Given our improving operational reliability, competitive cost structure and our relatively young CRJ-200 fleet, Endeavor is well positioned to retain a significant portion of our current 50-seat aircraft for the foreseeable future. Delta is confident in our ability to operate these aircraft in an efficient, cost effective, and customer focused manner. Retaining these aircraft will allow us to provide ongoing career opportunities for the pilots, flight attendants, maintenance technicians and dispatchers who operate these aircraft. Undoubtedly, our focus on reliability, continuous operational improvement and our customers has positively influenced Delta’s desire to have Endeavor continue operating CRJ-200’s.".

gojo 12-31-2013 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by Duke990 (Post 1550069)
Officially Delta plans to park all of the CRJ-200's at 9E. Let's revisit the last couple years.

1) DL pilots signed a new contract that allows only 125 50-seat aircraft by the end of 2015.
2) DL shuts down Comair and gets to park all of their CRJ-200's in the desert.
3) DL inks a deal with Skywest/ASA to park CRJ-200's in return for Comair's CRJ-700's/CRJ-900's
4) There are only two other 50-seat operators in DL's system...9E and Chautauqua. DL controls 9E through the BK and decided the remaining 50-seat jets to be parked are 9E's

A couple years ago there were about 350 50-seat aircraft under DCI. The Skywest deal (66 CRJ-200's) and the parking of Comair's CRJ-200's left about 265 50-seat jets flying for DL. That means that 140 airplanes from either Chautauqua or Pinnacle HAVE to be gone in 2 years. DL has signed contracts with all of their other feed and can't get rid of those 50-seaters without penalties. Who do you think will lose here? My guess is DL's wholly owned stepchild.

Oh, and the memo from the new 9E CEO gave a lot of false hope with his memo a couple months ago. Nowhere does it say they WILL or SHALL keep the flying. Only a bunch of catch phrases to attempt to draw in gullible new-hires.

"Previously, we communicated that our long-term business plan called for Endeavor to operate a fleet of 81 CRJ-900’s and that over the course of the next several years, all of our CRJ-200 aircraft would be retired. Delta Air Lines has now indicated that it plans to retain at least 100 CRJ-200’s in its overall Delta Connection network. Given our improving operational reliability, competitive cost structure and our relatively young CRJ-200 fleet, Endeavor is well positioned to retain a significant portion of our current 50-seat aircraft for the foreseeable future. Delta is confident in our ability to operate these aircraft in an efficient, cost effective, and customer focused manner. Retaining these aircraft will allow us to provide ongoing career opportunities for the pilots, flight attendants, maintenance technicians and dispatchers who operate these aircraft. Undoubtedly, our focus on reliability, continuous operational improvement and our customers has positively influenced Delta’s desire to have Endeavor continue operating CRJ-200’s."

Bla, bla, bla, do you think things are stable at Expess jets right now? I can almost gaurentee there's things going on behind the scenes there. Especially if Delta's involved. I only say this because nothing is permanent. Since the Comair strike Delta has learned to balance out the flying as to not give one carrier too much lift.

Captain Tony 12-31-2013 08:38 AM

With what's going on at ASA right now, with this concessionary TA that seems destined to fail, and management "claiming" the SkyWest Board is fed up with our side supposedly losing money, I would expect to see DAL suddenly announce that they have worked with SkyWest management to terminate our CPA,most of our -200s will be parked within a year. IMO Endeavor is well positioned to keep most of theirs.

Captain Tony 12-31-2013 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 1550084)
Bla, bla, bla, do you think things are stable at Expess jets right now? I can almost gaurentee there's things going on behind the scenes there. Especially if Delta's involved. I only say this because nothing is permanent. Since the Comair strike Delta has learned to balance out the flying as to not give one carrier too much lift.

I am certain that this POS TA we're voting on is the result of direct collaboration between SkyWest Inc, DAL, and ALPA National to further lower the bar in the regional industry.

Farmlover 12-31-2013 09:00 AM

why does 80kts hate on 9e so much.

gojo 12-31-2013 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 1550108)
I am certain that this POS TA we're voting on is the result of direct collaboration between SkyWest Inc, DAL, and ALPA National to further lower the bar in the regional industry.

That's exactly my point. Whenever Delta has their hand in something at the regional level it usually works out in their favor. All I'm trying to do is give people on here other options to think about. Because there are a lot of posters speaking of absolutes on here. Nothing is absolute in this business, especially at the regional level

PCLCREW 12-31-2013 09:49 AM



Originally Posted by swamp (Post 1549934)
Heard pink slip ppls SSP interview went about as well as most of his check rides..... Bust....

Did the legendary AR pass? If he got by...ugh.
I've heard he will be teaching Delta pilots how to fly soon enough.
He's all yours.

Flitestar 12-31-2013 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by Duke990 (Post 1550069)
Officially Delta plans to park all of the CRJ-200's at 9E. Let's revisit the last couple years.

1) DL pilots signed a new contract that allows only 125 50-seat aircraft by the end of 2015.
2) DL shuts down Comair and gets to park all of their CRJ-200's in the desert.
3) DL inks a deal with Skywest/ASA to park CRJ-200's in return for Comair's CRJ-700's/CRJ-900's
4) There are only two other 50-seat operators in DL's system...9E and Chautauqua. DL controls 9E through the BK and decided the remaining 50-seat jets to be parked are 9E's

A couple years ago there were about 350 50-seat aircraft under DCI. The Skywest deal (66 CRJ-200's) and the parking of Comair's CRJ-200's left about 265 50-seat jets flying for DL. That means that 140 airplanes from either Chautauqua or Pinnacle HAVE to be gone in 2 years. DL has signed contracts with all of their other feed and can't get rid of those 50-seaters without penalties. Who do you think will lose here? My guess is DL's wholly owned stepchild

At least somebody gets it.

New hires need to read this post and decide whether they wanna take their chances as fresh 2014 new hires under these circumstances.

It's ink on paper guys, written by daddy delta management. Not rumors.

If you think these official plans will not follow through because "regional industry is always changing" then more power to you, if it helps you sleep better at night then have at it. While nothing is ever written in stone, odds of this fleet reduction not happening are incredibly slim, the math is written on the quoted post above.

I wouldn't write a letter to recommend a friend to come over to 9E.


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