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madeinUSA 12-07-2013 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 1534828)
And how much are you making next year? You do know that bribe money was a one time deal? And what happens to that credit with FAR 117 reducing the amount you can credit per month? I hope you aren't budgeting for 105hrs. Considering I am making less than $62,000 as an eighth year (all reserve or CDO, AKA guarantee every month) captain this year, I call BS. Then again I don't count the 6K in bribe money (that was actually only 5,200 into the 401K) or the pittance of per diem.

You people and your mistrust.

39*105*12= 49,140
1.7*300*12= 6,120
Bonus/ Hush money or whatever = 6,000
Total = 61,260 Add in 150% pickup here and there and you have a little over 62,000.

Take home is a little more than 3400/mo.
And yes, I have company HRA, Dental, Vision, 401k, and claim 0 on my w-4.

If I lived in base I could probably have worked the system a little better. And, no I don't budget for anything over 75 hrs and obviously wouldn't take into account a one-time payout.

TallFlyer 12-07-2013 08:49 AM

Last I checked there was more regional carriers than Endeavor out there. Expand your horizons.

Avroman 12-07-2013 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by madeinUSA (Post 1534964)
You people and your mistrust.

39*105*12= 49,140
1.7*300*12= 6,120
Bonus/ Hush money or whatever = 6,000
Total = 61,260 Add in 150% pickup here and there and you have a little over 62,000.

Take home is a little more than 3400/mo.
And yes, I have company HRA, Dental, Vision, 401k, and claim 0 on my w-4.

If I lived in base I could probably have worked the system a little better. And, no I don't budget for anything over 75 hrs and obviously wouldn't take into account a one-time payout.



Yet you are doing exactly that in your numbers above. Let me help you out.
12 * 75 * $37= $33,200. That's it. Your pretax budget is $33,200. Can you get more as a lineholder? Yes. Can you be certain of how much? No. Same for per diem, besides that is to make up some of the higher costs of having to eat out on the road. It is not a supplement, bonus, commission or whatever you want to call it to add to salary.
105 credit every month is spending a LOT of time on the road away from family. Excuse me for wanting to sleep in my own bed and cook my own meal once in a while. Companies love guys like you. Willing to bust your ass to make up for substandard pay instead of demanding a good wage so you don't have to work over guarantee to pay the bills.

seafeye 12-07-2013 12:22 PM

Or take $100,000 invest it in your own company and make 20-40% return.
30 years later you will have made a solid business for your kids. Not sure anyone recommends flying to their kids anymore.

madeinUSA 12-07-2013 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 1535074)
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Yet you are doing exactly that in your numbers above. Let me help you out.
12 * 75 * $37= $33,200. That's it. Your pretax budget is $33,200. Can you get more as a lineholder? Yes. Can you be certain of how much? No. Same for per diem, besides that is to make up some of the higher costs of having to eat out on the road. It is not a supplement, bonus, commission or whatever you want to call it to add to salary.
105 credit every month is spending a LOT of time on the road away from family. Excuse me for wanting to sleep in my own bed and cook my own meal once in a while. Companies love guys like you. Willing to bust your ass to make up for substandard pay instead of demanding a good wage so you don't have to work over guarantee to pay the bills.

I guess I was just trying to enlighten the original poster about wages at a regional vs. working fast food. You're right, the company probably does love guys like me. In my defense, my number one preference bid is to avoid work. I used to get 17 days off and now am down to 12 working 95+ instead of 75 and making the same amount... sucks pretty bad. I wasn't bragging or saying how great life is, just stating the facts about this past year at 9E. I do however pocket 95% of my per diem and bring my own much healthier food. My personal choice of course.
As far as the fast food thing goes. According to Wiki " the minimum wage rate in 2009 was $7.25 per hour or $15,080 for the 2080 hours in a typical work year." I'm not sure if it really compares considering as an airline pilot you start out in that neighborhood, but if you stick with it you will probably retire making over $200,000 which even a McDonald's franchise owner would struggle to make.

thump 12-07-2013 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 1535091)
Or take $100,000 invest it in your own company and make 20-40% return.
30 years later you will have made a solid business for your kids. Not sure anyone recommends flying to their kids anymore.

LOL, so THAT is the secret to getting 20-40% on my investment portfolio!

:rolleyes:

AlaskaBound 12-07-2013 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by bonesbrigade (Post 1534820)
Can you get me an "IN" at Delta? I ask only because you speak with such authority that you must be in a position of power and knowledge at Delta Air Lines.

Didn't mean to get you all butt-hurt. I am just regurgitating what's already been announced by delta. Show me where RA has said otherwise. Some of you guys live in a wonderful world of denial.

ChipChelios 12-08-2013 07:30 AM


6th year pay 9E FO $62,000. Granted I averaged 105 hrs credit/mo. and had a 6,000 bonus including per diem.
That was the genius in the longevity bonus...they gave you money they took away and made us feel like they gave us something.

Flitestar 12-08-2013 08:22 AM

+1

The saddest part is it worked...

DL31082 12-08-2013 08:33 AM

There's no such thing as 6 year pay at 9E anymore. It's capped at 4.


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