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Bartok 12-11-2013 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1537622)
Yes, and it's thinking like that which airline management knows all too well and why they get away with paying poverty wages at regionals. Entry level wages of 15k-30k for FOs and 50-80k for CAs. While a RJ CA salary is livable, FO salary isn't meant to be lived on for long term. Most of the legacy pilots in this thread got hired at a regional in a good time, upgraded very quickly, and got to serve a big portion of the regional career as a CA. Today, thanks to Age 65, recession, and guys who just won't leave unless Delta or United calls, there are 7-10+ year RJ FOs who haven't made a penny more than $35-45k all in hopes of "one day" flying for a major.

It's supply and demand. I'm not saying it's right, just that they can get away with it.

My hope is that no one comes to Endeavor as a new hire until changes are made.

If their goal is to keep operating Endeavor then they will have to give back to get anyone coming here.

pa28dakota 12-11-2013 11:15 AM

I share your hopes Bartok, but I'm more worried that if 9E cannot attract anyone Delta will just throw out the idea that we keep 200s and stick with the original fleet plan...shrinking us to 81 aircraft and if that doesn't stop the bleeding...Comair 2.0. I think they'd do this to us before changing the working conditions at DCI regionals.

pa28dakota 12-11-2013 11:17 AM

BTW straight from the MEM school house....15 new hire prospects interviewed, only 1 accepted is the word from Weldon. SSP only 2 out of 7 got offers in last interview group.

Flitestar 12-11-2013 11:26 AM

I bet that guy/gal that took the job offer won't show up for class either...

pa28dakota 12-11-2013 11:27 AM

I bet you are right

block30 12-11-2013 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1537645)
It's supply and demand. I'm not saying it's right, just that they can get away with it.

My hope is that no one comes to Endeavor as a new hire until changes are made.

If their goal is to keep operating Endeavor then they will have to give back to get anyone coming here.

Is Delta really paying attention to 9E's staffing? Is Delta amenable to sprucing up the place for new hires to come?

hockeypilot44 12-11-2013 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by pa28dakota (Post 1537688)
BTW straight from the MEM school house....15 new hire prospects interviewed, only 1 accepted is the word from Weldon. SSP only 2 out of 7 got offers in last interview group.

Sounds about right. When Delta starts interviewing the former Gulfstream guys with no education, very few of them will probably get hired. The interviewers are probably extremely skeptical of the guys with no post high school education even if they are interviewing them below everyone else's qualifications. I am sure a few will get through just to give hope, but the majority probably will not.

Bartok 12-11-2013 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by block30 (Post 1537695)
Is Delta really paying attention to 9E's staffing? Is Delta amenable to sprucing up the place for new hires to come?

Depends on what the plan is.

If they plan on shrinking us, then no.

If they plan on using Endeavor as a main Regional feed, then yes.

Ftrooppilot 12-11-2013 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by pa28dakota (Post 1537688)
BTW straight from the MEM school house....15 new hire prospects interviewed, only 1 accepted is the word from Weldon. SSP only 2 out of 7 got offers in last interview group.

If Endeavor determined that only one was qualified / offered a job, and he / she accepted, then they are batting 100%.

Bartok 12-11-2013 12:10 PM

I don't think it will take much to get people here though.

1. Offer SSP for new-hires
2. Add years to the FO pay cap
3. Give back 150% pickup

This will get butts in class.


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