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Old 04-13-2014 | 07:01 AM
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+1 for Dirty Dirt lol
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Old 04-13-2014 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SmitteyB
Yep, I am from Colgan.

I also gave 6 years to this pilot group on both the Colgan and Pinnacle MECs. I don't hide behind my keyboard using a vague screen name . My record and service speaks for itself. If you don't like that I stick up for Colgan pilots who get bashed because you got screwed out of an upgrade, then that is a personal issue you should get help with.

But if defending a group of pilots who are innocent then yes I "pollute" your little flying club on airlinkpilots.com.
Oh I know who you are now..."Mr. I am entitled to that left seat"....while I have sat in the right seat being a check airmen instructing and being a captain. All fun and games though for you though right?? You are sticking up for a bunch of people who have no business being in the left seat based purely on safety. You didn't screw me out of an upgrade( I'm too junior) I don't care about any of that. I'm sick of your white knight attitude both on here and airlinks. I can't wait to fly with you in NYC someday. I'll do my job and that's it, and I pray to god you are the 1% of colgan pukes I won't have to instruct or act as PIC, because I am sick and tired of it and I don't get paid enough to do it.
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Old 04-13-2014 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by whoareyou311
Oh I know who you are now..."Mr. I am entitled to that left seat"....while I have sat in the right seat being a check airmen instructing and being a captain. All fun and games though for you though right?? You are sticking up for a bunch of people who have no business being in the left seat based purely on safety. You didn't screw me out of an upgrade( I'm too junior) I don't care about any of that. I'm sick of your white knight attitude both on here and airlinks. I can't wait to fly with you in NYC someday. I'll do my job and that's it, and I pray to god you are the 1% of colgan pukes I won't have to instruct or act as PIC, because I am sick and tired of it and I don't get paid enough to do it.
You realize this is a weak argument right?

Most Colgan CAs didn't have Mesaba guys giving them instruction / OE. So it's purely on Pinnacle LCAs who passed "deficient" airmen as to why we FOs might have to "CFI".

And no excuses for the company pushing LCAs to pass guys with lots of OE. Company pushing caused MKE.

Pinnacle pilots aren't any worse, and many times aren't any better than the guys from the other airlines we merged with.

I have flown with the OP as his FO, and he is as good or better than every other CA with whom I have shared a flight deck.

How anyone can stick up for the punitive nature of 9E "training" I will never understand.
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Old 04-13-2014 | 08:39 AM
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Lol, you guys sound like Maverick and Ice Man fighting over who's the best pilot. Ten years from now you'll look back and see how foolish and juvenile your attitude is.
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Old 04-13-2014 | 09:37 AM
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Lol, you guys sound like Maverick and Ice Man fighting over who's the best pilot. Ten years from now you'll look back and see how foolish and juvenile your attitude is.
Exactly. You are 100% correct. It's ridiculous to think that any of us are better pilots just because we are original XJ, 9L, or 9E. This isn't a contest kids. The mission is to go to work for 1-5 days and get people safely from A to B.

I tell you what, tom11011, the most unprofessional behavior I've seen is pilots talking about fellow pilots in front of passengers and wondering aloud not if, but when, they are going to bend metal.

Be glad you don't work here. It's cringe inducing.
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Old 04-13-2014 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
You realize this is a weak argument right?

Most Colgan CAs didn't have Mesaba guys giving them instruction / OE. So it's purely on Pinnacle LCAs who passed "deficient" airmen as to why we FOs might have to "CFI".

And no excuses for the company pushing LCAs to pass guys with lots of OE. Company pushing caused MKE.

Pinnacle pilots aren't any worse, and many times aren't any better than the guys from the other airlines we merged with.

I have flown with the OP as his FO, and he is as good or better than every other CA with whom I have shared a flight deck.

How anyone can stick up for the punitive nature of 9E "training" I will never understand.
You are clueless if you think it is the legacy 9e check airmens fault, and have no idea how the current department operates. There is a reason original 9e never gave more than 50 hours of OE, and there is a reason why at least 3 FO"'s banned from upgrade there are now 900 captains.
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Old 04-13-2014 | 10:34 AM
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This thread could be a soap opera...so much drama!
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Old 04-13-2014 | 10:40 AM
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This thread could be a soap opera...so much drama!
Drama, ignorance and anatomy measuring contests. You were expecting more on this site?
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Old 04-13-2014 | 11:07 AM
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Colgan pilots can't fly an RJ!! RJ'S are some of the most difficult planes to fly out there!!
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Old 04-13-2014 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by IBPilot
You are clueless if you think it is the legacy 9e check airmens fault, and have no idea how the current department operates. There is a reason original 9e never gave more than 50 hours of OE, and there is a reason why at least 3 FO"'s banned from upgrade there are now 900 captains.
It isn't always the pilot candidates fault. Excessive amounts of OE can also be traced back to the training department. Ten years ago I remember hearing people from Pinnacle boasting that they had one of the highest failure rates in the industry like it was a good thing. To me the failure rate speaks volumes about the quality of the training department and their pilot selection process. Sure there are going to be some that don't make it, but the percentage should be relatively small.
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