gloopy

What? So the pass rate is 100%?

Mesabah

They have to hire 8 SSP's per month. So if only 6 apply, they have to hire all 6, and 6 FO's.

Justdoinmyjob

After dealing with Delta management for close to 20 years, I find it hard to believe that they would negotiate or start a program which ties their hands in regards to making a decision about who they want working there. ALPA attorneys have a poor track record of beating Delta management with one of their own documents.

8JRMfortheyear

Lifer, did you pass up your ssp?

pa28dakota

Ha now I have a feeling I know who you are, not that that matters. I saw the voluntary displacement works and considered doing it on 14-08...until I saw the increase in reserve levels at LGA. Personally, if there is ANY chance I'll be on reserve at LGA, then I'd rather stay at JFK. I don't see people stopping the chasing of schedule quality between the two bases so there will always be some junior movement. I'm just going to stay here and watch the poop show.

mooney

Actually, yes I did tough guy. Have anything else to input?
And what does that have to do with my post which is obviously sarcastic?

jethikoki

It appears some may like to use the term "lifer" as if its something bad. Another way of trying to put down people at the lower echelon who have the least power and more then likely not very responsible for inability to move up into mainline positions. Was any regional lifer responsible for giving up scope or downsizing? Tie that in with ALPA and mainline allowing non-apla pilots to cut in line to be offered positions at mainline without starting at the true bottom of the industry. You get what you have now with more people stagnating at the top of the regionals rather then continuing on into mainline jobs. The broken one sided system that ALPA and mainline pilots created and allowed to evolve is the primary reason you get so many so called lifers. I just find it funny how people chastise those at the bottom with least power and fighting about the crumbs thrown out by management, ALPA and mainline pilots rather then directing it at those most responsible.

tunes

1 etd interviewee today and 1 hire

sailingfun

All the above is spot on. There must be hundreds of posts where pilots seem to assume that unions control the seniority lists and who is hired. Those are management functions. Management can hire anyone they want with any method they want. They also control mergers. I can't tell you how many times I have heard "If only DALPA would merge the lists or put us on their list." DALPA does not control those issues and does not merge airlines, management does.

pa28dakota

I did not mean to imply that the union has anything to do with DAL managements hiring practices. They are an integral part of the Bridge Agreement/SSP however. As far as I understand it (which could be very wrong), once all pilots from the time the bankruptcy contract was signed interview through the SSP the Bridge Agreement is done. Therefore, if the union prevents the SSP from being extended to FOs, with a shrinking carrier, they are thinking that'll hold the Bridge Agreement intact thus forcing DAL to hire X number or pilots per class regardless if the SSP is stalled because all Captains have interviewed...theoretically until the entire list is exhausted.