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pa28dakota 03-27-2015 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1850821)
Is that something that's in the SSP wording? Because other than the 90 days flow holdback language at CPZ, I don't think anyone has ever gotten a seniority number while they wait in a hiring pool or equivalent.

There is nothing as far as I know that addresses this. I was merely in a couple words answering the question that 9E pilots are being held back without seniority numbers and that the union is trying to negotiate something...which as someone else mentioned will go no where more than likely. A good point was made that most of us would not have gotten this opportunity this soon or at all. Personally, I have no issue waiting my turn should I get a CJO.

Mesabah 03-27-2015 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by pa28dakota (Post 1850986)
There is nothing as far as I know that addresses this. I was merely in a couple words answering the question that 9E pilots are being held back without seniority numbers and that the union is trying to negotiate something...which as someone else mentioned will go no where more than likely. A good point was made that most of us would not have gotten this opportunity this soon or at all. Personally, I have no issue waiting my turn should I get a CJO.

I can see how people are confused, but the SSP/hiring commitment is a metering program for management. It came from management, not the union. According to Delta's hiring policies, without the SSP, they would have to interview all the 9E pilots that applied, and take them before anyone off the street. Delta selects employee's for interview in this order: Internal Delta - Delta subsidiaries - off the street.

pa28dakota 03-27-2015 11:36 AM

Interesting, I did not know this. Well, like I said, I am patient. Until the SSP was extended to FOs I did not even think at all in my lifetime that Delta would even look at me.

Mesabah 03-27-2015 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by pa28dakota (Post 1851018)
Interesting, I did not know this. Well, like I said, I am patient. Until the SSP was extended to FOs I did not even think at all in my lifetime that Delta would even look at me.

There was no hold back language in the hiring commitment for FO's, so you would have had FO's moving to Delta before captains.

pa28dakota 03-27-2015 12:02 PM

Was pretty sure there wasn't. There are just a vocal minority that seem to think it is unfair that they have to sit here at 9E with a CJO while off the street hires go right to class when said vocal minority may not have even had an opportunity to interview at Delta this soon anyways. It isn't stopping them from trying to get a seniority number by pushing to union to try and get it while they wait. I fear if they make too much a stink about it...well what's the first word of CJO?

Lvlng4Spd 03-27-2015 12:52 PM

What kind of delta travel benefits do you guys have? On your own metal and on mainline.

higney85 03-27-2015 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd (Post 1851069)
What kind of delta travel benefits do you guys have? On your own metal and on mainline.

S3 us, S3B mainline, S3C other DCI. Fly confirmed for less tickets, no buddy passes. JS priority on our own metal (hope that's common for everyone).

If you aren't in the DL system to know non-rev priority it's basically DOH between DL and endeavor on our own, just after DL and in front of other dci on mainline. First inline after DL on mainline js. For the fly confirmed program you basically get 25-35% lower than DL website or Expedia on tickets for purchase (at least that was the number from a trip my wife and I did last week).

Lvlng4Spd 03-27-2015 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by higney85 (Post 1851078)
S3 us, S3B mainline, S3C other DCI. Fly confirmed for less tickets, no buddy passes. JS priority on our own metal (hope that's common for everyone).

If you aren't in the DL system to know non-rev priority it's basically DOH between DL and endeavor on our own, just after DL and in front of other dci on mainline. First inline after DL on mainline js. For the fly confirmed program you basically get 25-35% lower than DL website or Expedia on tickets for purchase (at least that was the number from a trip my wife and I did last week).

Thanks, appreciate it!

encore 03-27-2015 05:32 PM

Whats the DOH of the most junior ex-pinnacle new captain?

higney85 03-27-2015 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by encore (Post 1851264)
Whats the DOH of the most junior ex-pinnacle new captain?

Wait a week. Likely mid 2006 and rapidly climbing to more recent with each vacancy.


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