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HeyOneTaco 05-03-2017 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by Two Kings (Post 2356812)
I hope no one called the bomb squad.

Winner of best jepp/manuals disposal if they actually blew it up!

Avroman 05-04-2017 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by msprj2 (Post 2356755)
Maybe if we just grew DTW and MSP there would be jr seats available

That would certainly help too, but that still doesn't allow for movement at the top. At this point I am not sure anything will help with that. Most of those guys wouldn't leave even with a flow.

msprj2 05-04-2017 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 2356998)
That would certainly help too, but that still doesn't allow for movement at the top. At this point I am not sure anything will help with that. Most of those guys wouldn't leave even with a flow.

There has never been movement off the top. Have you looked at DOH? Top 100 is 20+ years that's only a little more than 5% of our list.

AnotherWriter 05-04-2017 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by msprj2 (Post 2357008)
There has never been movement off the top. Have you looked at DOH? Top 100 is 20+ years that's only a little more than 5% of our list.

This is true for almost every airline.

Mesabah 05-04-2017 06:48 AM

Working during the lost decade was pretty demoralizing. If you are just getting in at Endeavor now, it's easy to put together a volunteer, mentor, no sick calls, etc, work resume, for a quick few years to move on. However, for many at the top, there were years where you couldn't even apply anywhere, so you got lax, and that's where the motivation Delta is looking for, hurts the most.

jethikoki 05-04-2017 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2357073)
Working during the lost decade was pretty demoralizing. If you are just getting in at Endeavor now, it's easy to put together a volunteer, mentor, no sick calls, etc, work resume, for a quick few years to move on. However, for many at the top, there were years where you couldn't even apply anywhere, so you got lax, and that's where the motivation Delta is looking for, hurts the most.

You left out mergers and consolidations that created fewer job opportunities along with our union that doesn't consider regional pilots as real pilots deserving of same protections as our mainline counterparts. Only real pilots deserve that.

Mesabah 05-04-2017 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by jethikoki (Post 2357270)
You left out mergers and consolidations that created fewer job opportunities along with our union that doesn't consider regional pilots as real pilots deserving of same protections as our mainline counterparts. Only real pilots deserve that.

I would argue that mainline pilots have lost more than us, we are down 50% from historical pay, they are down at least 75%. Mainline pilots have given up more in pay, than they will ever make in career earnings. But yes, we are treated like ****.

This whole career has been a disaster, that's why I took steps to remove myself from it.

jethikoki 05-04-2017 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2357292)
I would argue that mainline pilots have lost more than us, we are down 50% from historical pay, they are down at least 75%. Mainline pilots have given up more in pay, than they will ever make in career earnings. But yes, we are treated like ****.

This whole career has been a disaster, that's why I took steps to remove myself from it.

Yes and it is sad and tragic. What was the answer? Give up more scope to help provide additional compensation at the regionals expense and offer little in return.

prex8390 05-04-2017 02:03 PM

Congrats FODhopper saw you made the upgrade on the final.

Five93H 05-04-2017 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2357441)
Congrats FODhopper saw you made the upgrade on the final.

Glad the move here is working out for you folks, really good stuff to see.

Congrats on the upgradezzzzz all, join you soon.


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