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ninerdriver 03-27-2020 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by normalpilot (Post 3013867)
I’m no accountant but how can someone say they are trying to save money by not giving CPTO at a reduced rate (50 hr/month) but instead have people sit reserve in a city with no departure as reserve paying 75 hrs/month? Looks better as a company to offer paid time off than abuse people and pay them a little more...

Because it's not an option in the contract. I'd be surprised if we didn't see an LOA come out before the next early bid with some sort of VPTO option.

One thing they can do is buy off trips or parts of trips. I wouldn't expect to see it at first. If scheduling gets a handle on piecing together our existing pairings, though, I wouldn't be surprised to see some amount of buying off later. There's very little variation in the daily schedule next month. It probably wouldn't be hard to build new pairings.

So why would they buy us off? The company is already on the hook for our line credit values. It's cheaper to just pay that versus the additional cost of per diem and three nights in a New York hotel if we aren't going to fly. Some folks will inevitably be stuck on AVL for the whole trip, but it's cheaper if we aren't all doing it.

Mesabah 03-27-2020 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by FlyWhite (Post 3013831)
So with zero NY CPJ flying what do we think they will be doing with us?

Reserve grid will probably still be red.

Flogger 03-27-2020 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by DeltaCorrectons (Post 3013842)

It's cute you think there will be a glove.

JulesWinfield 03-27-2020 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by normalpilot (Post 3013867)
I’m no accountant but how can someone say they are trying to save money by not giving CPTO at a reduced rate (50 hr/month) but instead have people sit reserve in a city with no departure as reserve paying 75 hrs/month? Looks better as a company to offer paid time off than abuse people and pay them a little more...

Not to mention the fact that all of the lineholders getting shifted to AVL is going to increase hotel costs in bases.

PaloAlto 03-27-2020 01:31 PM

There is a grievance underway for the suspension of trip trades and open time pick ups. Management refused to negotiate with ALPA on the issue.

Good on the MEC. This is a clear contract violation, and the number of pilots on the Facebook group who are willing to be bent over by the company is disgusting.

msprj2 03-27-2020 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by PaloAlto (Post 3014132)
There is a grievance underway for the suspension of trip trades and open time pick ups. Management refused to negotiate with ALPA on the issue.

Good on the MEC. This is a clear contract violation, and the number of pilots on the Facebook group who are willing to be bent over by the company is disgusting.

Let me guess, you’re senior and got everything you wanted. Well the rest of us have crap. A rebid with real trips would be nice

PaloAlto 03-27-2020 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by msprj2 (Post 3014148)
Let me guess, you’re senior and got everything you wanted. Well the rest of us have crap. A rebid with real trips would be nice

Yes, a rebid would be nice but Delta released the final schedule way too late for that. Regardless of all that, denying us the contractural right to trade trips and swap/add with open time is a clear contract violation and a grievance absolutely should be filed.

web500sjc 03-27-2020 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by msprj2 (Post 3014148)
Let me guess, you’re senior and got everything you wanted. Well the rest of us have crap. A rebid with real trips would be nice


You know the company stopped trades and is just “fixing” the trips. There is no rebid.

overqualified52 03-27-2020 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Flogger (Post 3014026)
It's cute you think there will be a glove.

never had a nurse looking like that 😂. You made my day . Thank you 😊

Rayjay 03-27-2020 03:37 PM

The amount of entitlement at this company is unreal


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