Originally Posted by Woger Wabbit (Post 2405181)

Assignment of seniority by Social Security number to new hire pilots

Hmm...wonder whose idea this was? Glad to see it's one of the five important things they agreed on. Now just 15 more minor things still to discuss.

"Firm at the 83-hour divisor..." Lol, great to see the union standing so tough.

Originally Posted by Green Needles (Post 2405032)

I can't believe I'm even responding to a comment so mind-blowingly stupid, but here goes:

According to Merriam-Webster, pay is defined as: "something paid for a purpose and especially as a salary or wage"

So if the bonus is not pay, how come the IRS taxes it as pay (salary or wage), how come the union takes dues out of it as pay (salary or wage)?

This April, when you file your taxes, why don't you try telling the IRS the bonus isn't pay, and because it's going to expire, it shouldn't be taxed. Tell us how that works out for you.

Anyone that thinks we should accept anything less than $25.56 per hour across the board (bonus conversion at min guarantee) needs a shrink.

Originally Posted by Woger Wabbit (Post 2405181)

Assignment of seniority by Social Security number to new hire pilots

Hmm...wonder whose idea this was? Glad to see it's one of the five important things they agreed on. Now just 15 more minor things still to discuss.

"Firm at the 83-hour divisor..." Lol, great to see the union standing so tough.

Originally Posted by Casualinterest (Post 2405186)

I like the "elimination of the me too clause with FA's and dispatchers" they can't agree on much but they agree that they don't want those two groups getting more.......

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Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2405222)

Well well well, we're starting to get more like Delta pilots every day. With them making less it leaves more for us

Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta (Post 2405233)

What's your point? Delta pilots and dispatchers are the only major unionized groups here. If you didn't notice, the company was throwing big raises to the other groups during our latest negotiations to keep the other sheep placated since they knew the focus would be on big money gains for the pilots. Those groups are responsible for their own negotiating, or lack thereof.

Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 2405190)

It's a bonus, not pay. It's guaranteed for 4 years from when it started.
(Look at your own Websters definition.)

Then it's gone.

Go get a mortgage on a house and try to count it as pay, mortgage companies get it and that's why it won't be counted.

It needs to be turned into an hourly wage increase, then it will be considered pay.

And the 83 hours is fair, it will give more money than the retention bonus to 85% of our pilots.

Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2405236)

Oh, sorry I stepped on your tail. And thanks for making my point with your last sentence.