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Avroman 01-21-2016 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by Mr Rumbold (Post 2051934)
Do those coming in with experience on the CRJ seem to have an advantage, because they're familiar with plane? Or a disadvantage because they think they know it all and actually they have deficiencies they need to realize and work on?

Also, in another post you said people need to be good on basic IFR knowledge- can you elaborate on some specifics? What sort of weaknesses are you seeing that could be shored up before arriving?

Time in type will have the advantage of snoozing through systems but then be at a bit of a disadvantage because they will need to forget procedures from the prior company that don't match Endeavor. That can be tougher than just learning a different airplane.

engine46 01-21-2016 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by BobJenkins (Post 2051931)
50% of the uniform is covered for new hires, plus the $240 at crew outfitters. But what is considered first-issue uniforms, as in number of pants, shirts, and ties?

Also, since 9E still has paper, one will need a flight kit it seems. Is there a more cost-effective alternative other than the $200 (or slightly under) for the leather ones, considering it will only be used for about +/- a year?

They'll tell you when you go get fitted, but it's something like 4 shirts, 2 pants, 2 ties, hat and overcoat.

Lots of flight kit options. A popular one is from Office Depot I think, lots of those hanging around the crew lounges recently. I think someone said it was like $40.

Gearswinger 01-21-2016 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by HeyOneTaco (Post 2051885)
Are leather jackets allowed?

I've seen photos of our pilots in hats, yet I don't recall seeing any guys in the airport wearing them. Are hats coming? Or staying away?


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Yes on leather jackets.

Hats are optional according to our contract. For some reason the new hires all seem to have them, even though they don't have to. Among people who have been here a while hats are pretty rare, I'd guess 1-2% wear the hat. Are they going to be mandatory at some point? Who knows. If the company gives the union something to change the contract, then yeah, they'll probably become mandatory. Until then, do what you want. I find the hat to be a major pain.

KSCessnaDriver 01-21-2016 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by Gearswinger (Post 2051985)
Yes on leather jackets.

Hats are optional according to our contract. For some reason the new hires all seem to have them, even though they don't have to. Among people who have been here a while hats are pretty rare, I'd guess 1-2% wear the hat. Are they going to be mandatory at some point? Who knows. If the company gives the union something to change the contract, then yeah, they'll probably become mandatory. Until then, do what you want. I find the hat to be a major pain.

The uniform shop kind of pushes it, saying that why not get it with the rest of your uniforms when the company is paying 50% of it, would be my guess as why new hires are getting the hats more.

Fourpaw 01-21-2016 07:25 AM

Any idea what the total out of pocket for uniforms are for a new hire? I think this $15 has be coming out of my check for quite a while now!

BobJenkins 01-21-2016 07:36 AM

Well, shirts run $12-23, pants are $55, and a tie is $10 at endeavor.crewoutfitters.com. Assuming 4/2/1, that's about $200. Throw in a blazer for $150 (unless you want to be a real man and go leather), and if common core really works, that's about $350 before tax. At $15 a paycheck, that would be around 12-13 months after tax I'd guess.


Originally Posted by Fourpaw (Post 2052015)
Any idea what the total out of pocket for uniforms are for a new hire? I think this $15 has be coming out of my check for quite a while now!


jules11 01-21-2016 07:43 AM

Looks like Delta isn't the only carrier ditching 50 seat jets

United buying bigger aircraft, ditching 50-seat planes - Chicago Tribune

gojo 01-21-2016 07:49 AM

Not sure about that. But even if they did it would only be about $100 dollars. I think the leather jackets are around $500. Emphasis on, I think

BobJenkins 01-21-2016 08:25 AM

Well, $100 is better than nothing. They are $320: Commercial Pilot Leather Jacket



Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2052044)
Not sure about that. But even if they did it would only be about $100 dollars. I think the leather jackets are around $500. Emphasis on, I think


whoareyou311 01-21-2016 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by jules11 (Post 2052035)
Looks like Delta isn't the only carrier ditching 50 seat jets

United buying bigger aircraft, ditching 50-seat planes - Chicago Tribune

Oh my...Not looking good for XJT


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