Search
Notices
Envoy Airlines Regional Airline

Bonus repayment

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-25-2017, 05:51 PM
  #21  
New Hire
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 8
Default

Originally Posted by flysooner9 View Post
I'm in a similar boat as the others. Hired by Eagle in 2011 left for corporate in 2014. My QOL is awesome I fly 3-4 times a month with very few overnights. However as someone mentioned my pay ceiling is relatively low. It has also hurt my overall progression because I've only been flying 200 hours a year the last 3 years. Now because of that I'm looking at having to do some more time at a regional before I can hit the legacy jackpot.

However I'd probably do the same thing if I had to do it over. At the time I left Eagle I had never sniffed a line. (3 years on RSV) 3 different bases and 2 planes. When I left I tripled my pay and would just now be equaling what I make now if I stayed at Eagle.
The QOL is where I'm looking too. And this isn't a bottom shelf offer either. Lear 75s and Gulfstreams. The pay starts at 2nd year American FO pay. I believe the "shortage" is starting to effect the low and mid level corporate jobs like this one. It's the only reason I think they even interviewed me with the hours I have. (1050) Either way I go though, I'm in a good position I think.
GSM2 is offline  
Old 05-25-2017, 05:54 PM
  #22  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 166
Default

Originally Posted by GSM2 View Post
The QOL is where I'm looking too. And this isn't a bottom shelf offer either. Lear 75s and Gulfstreams. The pay starts at 2nd year American FO pay. I believe the "shortage" is starting to effect the low and mid level corporate jobs like this one. It's the only reason I think they even interviewed me with the hours I have. (1050) Either way I go though, I'm in a good position I think.
If you leave after 1 year, then do you get to keep a pro-rated amount or are you forking it all back over?
SkipperBaloo is offline  
Old 05-25-2017, 05:59 PM
  #23  
New Hire
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 8
Default

Originally Posted by SkipperBaloo View Post
If you leave after 1 year, then do you get to keep a pro-rated amount or are you forking it all back over?
Half after a year, all of it the first year is what the contract we sign states.
GSM2 is offline  
Old 05-26-2017, 03:09 AM
  #24  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: forever fo
Posts: 2,413
Default

Originally Posted by flysooner9 View Post
I'm in a similar boat as the others. Hired by Eagle in 2011 left for corporate in 2014. My QOL is awesome I fly 3-4 times a month with very few overnights. However as someone mentioned my pay ceiling is relatively low. It has also hurt my overall progression because I've only been flying 200 hours a year the last 3 years. Now because of that I'm looking at having to do some more time at a regional before I can hit the legacy jackpot.

However I'd probably do the same thing if I had to do it over. At the time I left Eagle I had never sniffed a line. (3 years on RSV) 3 different bases and 2 planes. When I left I tripled my pay and would just now be equaling what I make now if I stayed at Eagle.
You where in my new hire class, how did you never hold a line? I never really sat reserve.....if you had displaced off the atr to the emj you'd have been a line holder same with Ord crj, I'm curious your path

Also you'd be about 24 months from AA if you had stayed and a captain close to holding a line in DFW right now.
lakehouse is offline  
Old 05-26-2017, 04:19 AM
  #25  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 366
Default

Originally Posted by lakehouse View Post
You where in my new hire class, how did you never hold a line? I never really sat reserve.....if you had displaced off the atr to the emj you'd have been a line holder same with Ord crj, I'm curious your path

Also you'd be about 24 months from AA if you had stayed and a captain close to holding a line in DFW right now.
This may all be true, except the part about close to holding a line. They would be near the bottom of the reserve list as a CA in DFW right now.
babs is offline  
Old 05-26-2017, 04:44 AM
  #26  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: forever fo
Posts: 2,413
Default

Originally Posted by babs View Post
This may all be true, except the part about close to holding a line. They would be near the bottom of the reserve list as a CA in DFW right now.
They'd be 990 system seniority, they'd be middle of RSV list and if you look at the flow plan DFW EMJ CA by fall will be 2014-2015. There's a boat load of DFW emj guys in qu or about to start. I stand behind my claim they would be close to holding a line in DFW.
lakehouse is offline  
Old 05-26-2017, 04:54 AM
  #27  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2007
Posts: 194
Default

Originally Posted by lakehouse View Post
They'd be 990 system seniority, they'd be middle of RSV list and if you look at the flow plan DFW EMJ CA by fall will be 2014-2015. There's a boat load of DFW emj guys in qu or about to start. I stand behind my claim they would be close to holding a line in DFW.
Well within reason. Oct 2010 hire has a line in DFW for June. Less than six months in seat from upgrade to off reserve as well. Like you said, it's going to move quick. 2014 qualified upgrades start training next month and should be on the line by late summer or early fall
go skers is offline  
Old 05-26-2017, 10:09 AM
  #28  
Gets Weekends Off
 
flysooner9's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,723
Default

Originally Posted by lakehouse View Post
You where in my new hire class, how did you never hold a line? I never really sat reserve.....if you had displaced off the atr to the emj you'd have been a line holder same with Ord crj, I'm curious your path

Also you'd be about 24 months from AA if you had stayed and a captain close to holding a line in DFW right now.
Second youngest in class. Got stuck with MIA ATR. Was the last person on the Rsv list for 6 months till it closed. Got displaced to DFW ATR. Then displaced to ORD CRJ. In hindsight I should have displaced to DFW EMJ. However at the time the 700 was doing ALOT of OKC flying so I went for the prospect of a fair amount of overnights at home. Which I actually did get a good amount of.

The good thing is im fairly confident I'll be at a major in 24 months anyway. Just have to decide if I want to stay put and wait till they eventually start taking lower time guys or go to a place hiring DEC's or go somewhere as an FO again.
flysooner9 is offline  
Old 05-30-2017, 03:54 AM
  #29  
Gets Weekends Off
 
E175 Driver's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2016
Position: E175
Posts: 686
Default

Originally Posted by flysooner9 View Post
Second youngest in class. Got stuck with MIA ATR. Was the last person on the Rsv list for 6 months till it closed. Got displaced to DFW ATR. Then displaced to ORD CRJ. In hindsight I should have displaced to DFW EMJ. However at the time the 700 was doing ALOT of OKC flying so I went for the prospect of a fair amount of overnights at home. Which I actually did get a good amount of.

The good thing is im fairly confident I'll be at a major in 24 months anyway. Just have to decide if I want to stay put and wait till they eventually start taking lower time guys or go to a place hiring DEC's or go somewhere as an FO again.


I'd stay put. You keep bouncing around and will never progress. Go for the E175 if you can.
E175 Driver is offline  
Old 05-30-2017, 07:57 PM
  #30  
Gets Weekends Off
 
flysooner9's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,723
Default

Originally Posted by E175 Driver View Post
I'd stay put. You keep bouncing around and will never progress. Go for the E175 if you can.
I left Eagle in 2014.... also none of that "bouncing around" was by choice. You guys that have been hired in the last 2-3 years have no idea how good you have it.
flysooner9 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
AeroCrewSolut
Hiring News
18
01-13-2018 03:12 AM
Duksrule
Money Talk
29
05-06-2017 04:20 AM
TonyC
FedEx
155
10-07-2015 01:13 AM
rbtower2
Other
26
09-01-2015 04:59 PM
PilotAnalyst
Regional
20
12-17-2012 12:27 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices