time to flow to AA - quicker in future ?
07-19-2017, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg
5.34 is the lowest I saw. March 2016. It stays low for a few months then begins to creep back up. Current new hire is looking at 7.37. Source: seniority list on ALPA site.
07-19-2017, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by AZPilotMike
I am not drinking the koolaid or anything, but these numbers are based solely on sending 25 a month. It doesn't account for demand rising over the next few years or those leaving for other companies. I see the ALPA list as more of a worst case scenario in terms of the metering. Obviously world events and the like can change this.
07-19-2017, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AZPilotMike
I am not drinking the koolaid or anything, but these numbers are based solely on sending 25 a month. It doesn't account for demand rising over the next few years or those leaving for other companies. I see the ALPA list as more of a worst case scenario in terms of the metering. Obviously world events and the like can change this.
1. The list does not take into account attrition, you are correct.
2. The list also does not take into account the fact that AA doesn't run classes in December and sometimes smaller classes in the summer.
I think flow will be on the shorter side of what is predicted by the union because of exactly what you said, but I also think that it's disingenuous for company mouthpieces to predict such a wildly different number when attrition is such an unknown variable.
07-19-2017, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot
Has American ever not slowed hiring in the summer. I'm serious. Let's look at the previous 5 years.
07-19-2017, 01:01 PM
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time to flow to AA - quicker in future ?
Originally Posted by Jersdawg
Two things:
1. The list does not take into account attrition, you are correct.
2. The list also does not take into account the fact that AA doesn't run classes in December and sometimes smaller classes in the summer.
I think flow will be on the shorter side of what is predicted by the union because of exactly what you said, but I also think that it's disingenuous for company mouthpieces to predict such a wildly different number when attrition is such an unknown variable.
1. The list does not take into account attrition, you are correct.
2. The list also does not take into account the fact that AA doesn't run classes in December and sometimes smaller classes in the summer.
I think flow will be on the shorter side of what is predicted by the union because of exactly what you said, but I also think that it's disingenuous for company mouthpieces to predict such a wildly different number when attrition is such an unknown variable.
+1 on disingenuous company mouthpieces /mouthing-feces / some throwing up metabolic waste.
07-19-2017, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot
Has American ever not slowed hiring in the summer. I'm serious. Let's look at the previous 5 years.
07-19-2017, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
Well, the July 11th class at AA had 41 new hires, and the upcoming July 25th class is projected to 42, for a total of 83 new hires this month. That's not a slowdown.
A year or more ago the ALPA spreadsheet had me flowing about 4 or 5 months quicker than I will actually end up going. If RW's numbers had been true each of the past 2 Januarys I would have already been at AA for a while, instead I have quite a ways to go.
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