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highflyer1980 12-10-2017 10:52 AM
Originally Posted by RawHide (Post 2480748)
Well no 1st or 2nd year CA gets paid large RJ rate it’s a pay band. You will get paid small rate until your seniority reaches the higher rate.

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highflyer1980 12-10-2017 11:47 AM
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Okay disregard. I misunderstood your first sentence. I was thinking you said 1st and 2nd year CA gets paid large RJ. After I read that a few times, I saw what you said because it completely contradicts your second sentence.

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RawHide 12-12-2017 08:58 AM
Fixed it for you

Originally Posted by RawHide (Post 2480748)
Well......no 1st or 2nd year CA gets paid large RJ rate it’s a pay band. You will get paid small rate until your seniority reaches the higher rate.

highflyer1980 12-12-2017 10:00 AM
Clear as crystal.....[emoji1303]


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3EngineTaxi 12-12-2017 02:21 PM
Originally Posted by highflyer1980 (Post 2481069)
Okay disregard. I misunderstood your first sentence. I was thinking you said 1st and 2nd year CA gets paid large RJ. After I read that a few times, I saw what you said because it completely contradicts your second sentence.

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I think some punctuation might have helped. I think he meant: "No 1st or 2nd year CA gets paid large RJ pay. It's a pay band." He was correct.

Pay banding is confusing and a stupid concept, in my opinion.

These are my opinions, and not those of any other entity or employer.

inevitableneb 12-12-2017 04:56 PM
Originally Posted by 3EngineTaxi (Post 2482317)
I think some punctuation might have helped. I think he meant: "No 1st or 2nd year CA gets paid large RJ pay. It's a pay band." He was correct.

Pay banding is confusing and a stupid concept, in my opinion.

These are my opinions, and not those of any other entity or employer.
I like it. Can you imagine the level of arrogance we would have to be dealing with if these RTP guys got better pay in their 175? They'd be out of control. Tokyo would be destroyed.

Bigpimppilot 12-12-2017 05:24 PM
Just to jump in here. My understanding is that management demanded the pay banding because they believed that if there was no benefit in bidding for pay then people would bid for what they really want and stick with it.

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TrinityDawn 12-12-2017 08:03 PM
Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot (Post 2482400)
Just to jump in here. My understanding is that management demanded the pay banding because they believed that if there was no benefit in bidding for pay then people would bid for what they really want and stick with it.
That is correct. Management wanted to cut down on the number of training cycles caused by captains chasing the higher pay rate.

Subpilot 12-12-2017 09:19 PM
Originally Posted by TrinityDawn (Post 2482461)
That is correct. Management wanted to cut down on the number of training cycles caused by captains chasing the higher pay rate.
I like the pay band. You choose the aircraft for your needs and not for the paycheck. Full disclosure, I’m a 145 captain getting 175 pay.


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