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highflyer1980 11-13-2017 09:19 AM

What would better reserve look like?
 

Originally Posted by ORDinary (Post 2465035)
It is only my opinion, but I don't think at this point there should be any trade-offs. Any contract change should be the company giving to us, for nothing in return. Everything should be a no vote unless it is given to us for free. This company has shown over and over again that they will not offer improvements unless they feel they need to. And if they need the improvements, then we don't have to pay for them. If they need the improvements to guarantee staffing, then let them give us the improvements for nothing in return.



Yep. Too many times grabbing from the cookie jar. This is what happens when you don’t honor agreements made. The plaintiffs just adapt and any further trash sent to them gets immediately thrown out because you now have zero credibility with said people.

In my opinion the simplest way for them to heal their credibility issues is to stop the damn metering and start recruiting by their own successes from within.


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Jersdawg 11-13-2017 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2465154)
All the airport reserve in NYC is no bueno. You're looking at $15-25 in tolls alone every time you drive there if you don't live on LI/NYC. It's making me think long and hard about the lateral move, especially since I'm looking at about 2 years on reserve.

Please share this with your recruiter. The company needs to hear how poor of an idea it is to force someone into the left seat rsv in LGA.

Reserve King 11-13-2017 12:35 PM

RAH doesn’t have airport reserve either. And as I understand it, EDV has a more restrained ready reserve policy. As someone potentially looking at years on reserve with the forced upgrade, it makes a difference. It’s one thing if reserve is a few months. But when you’re looking at years, that’s a tough rock to swallow.


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Blackhawk 11-13-2017 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Reserve King (Post 2465434)
RAH doesn’t have airport reserve either. And as I understand it, EDV has a more restrained ready reserve policy. As someone potentially looking at years on reserve with the forced upgrade, it makes a difference. It’s one thing if reserve is a few months. But when you’re looking at years, that’s a tough rock to swallow.


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I agree. I wouldn’t mind so much with a long call and a 3 hour short call, something where you are going to the airport to do something, but a year plus of airport appreciation sounds... wonderful. 🙄

bigtime209 11-13-2017 03:08 PM

Airport standby is most definitely the worst part of RSV. Unfortunately, it’s the company’s bread and butter for getting flights out on time that would otherwise go out late. There is absolutely nothing that would get the company to grant relief on standby. And at this point, I don’t see any changes to RSV coming. From what I’ve heard through the grapevine, management wasn’t too pleased with us trashing that garbage RSV LOA and talks between ALPA and the company on RSV are pretty much done. So this whole thread is pretty much a moot point.

Reserve King 11-13-2017 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 2465507)
Airport standby is most definitely the worst part of RSV. Unfortunately, it’s the company’s bread and butter for getting flights out on time that would otherwise go out late. There is absolutely nothing that would get the company to grant relief on standby. And at this point, I don’t see any changes to RSV coming. From what I’ve heard through the grapevine, management wasn’t too pleased with us trashing that garbage RSV LOA and talks between ALPA and the company on RSV are pretty much done. So this whole thread is pretty much a moot point.



That’s disappointing.


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SilentLurker 11-13-2017 04:45 PM

What would better reserve look like?
 

Originally Posted by Reserve King (Post 2465535)
That’s disappointing.


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No, that's ENY.

70 new pilots a month on avg entering the magic kingdom means all is wonderful in Disney Land. The brand is Magically Delicious kids so come on into the candy van.

2017 surprises are over. We'll patiently wait until 1st and/or 2nd Quarter 2018 for the good news cycle for bigger news, possible changes, contract shakeups, or bonuses, and/or regional mergers. We are historically due for another.

jshoneycutt 11-13-2017 06:47 PM

Another thought. Make reserve a no brainer for non-commuters by giving more control over their schedule.
* Proffering is a great option to help pilots get flying in when they want it.
* Min 11 days off (later this gets better);
* 2 days between reserve blocks (kind of obvious);
* when extended into day off pilot's discretion 150% above MMG or choice of drop day either first or last day of another reserve block either in current or following month (gives the pilots a lot more control over their schedule without threatening ops);
* if not called within 4 hours of end of RAP on second to last day, released into break without change to MMG (Not likely to be used anyway, and I think scheduling can build around the likelihood of pilots releasing a day early);
* and four golden days/guaranteed days off per year.

moon 11-14-2017 03:34 AM


Originally Posted by jshoneycutt (Post 2465622)
Another thought. Make reserve a no brainer for non-commuters by giving more control over their schedule.
* Proffering is a great option to help pilots get flying in when they want it.
HAVE IT
* Min 11 days off (later this gets better);
HAVE IT
* 2 days between reserve blocks (kind of obvious);
HAVE IT
* when extended into day off pilot's discretion 150% above MMG or choice of drop day either first or last day of another reserve block either in current or following month (gives the pilots a lot more control over their schedule without threatening ops);
WE GET 200% OR 4 HOURS STRAIGHT PAY WHICHEVER IS GREATER. AND THE OPTION TO DROP A RESERVE DAY WHEN WE WANT OR TAKE AN ADDITIONAL 4 HOURS OF PAY.
* if not called within 4 hours of end of RAP on second to last day, released into break without change to MMG (Not likely to be used anyway, and I think scheduling can build around the likelihood of pilots releasing a day early);
THIS WOULD BE GOOD.
* and four golden days/guaranteed days off per year.THIS WOULDN ALSO BE GOOD AND COST THE COMPANY NOTHING.

see responses above.

Smutter 11-14-2017 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by jshoneycutt (Post 2465622)
Another thought. Make reserve a no brainer for non-commuters by giving more control over their schedule.
* Proffering is a great option to help pilots get flying in when they want it.
* Min 11 days off (later this gets better);
* 2 days between reserve blocks (kind of obvious);
* when extended into day off pilot's discretion 150% above MMG or choice of drop day either first or last day of another reserve block either in current or following month (gives the pilots a lot more control over their schedule without threatening ops);
* if not called within 4 hours of end of RAP on second to last day, released into break without change to MMG (Not likely to be used anyway, and I think scheduling can build around the likelihood of pilots releasing a day early);
* and four golden days/guaranteed days off per year.

Did you forget we basically have all this. You must be on the negotiating committee.


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