What would better reserve look like?
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I don’t want to “negotiate on the internet” but being new to 121, I have no idea what it looks like else where.
So here goes: What would a (realistic) better/best possible reserve look like? What makes Envoy’s so bad?
So here goes: What would a (realistic) better/best possible reserve look like? What makes Envoy’s so bad?
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Give us Long call, and use it correctly. Not calling people to put them on short call the next day.
Ready reserve, no more. Not going to happen, so reduced to 6 hrs and not so many people on ready.
Earlier notification or proffer choice
Higher credit to get more days off. 11 is all envoy gets on reserve.
Last day of reserve to end early. Right now a pilot on their last day of reserve just on rap 2 can finish at midnight. So he just did 5 on with 3 off but because he finished at midnight, now he has to commute on 1st day off, off one day then commute on off day 3 because he has 4am rap on day 1 of 5
Allow pvds
Many more ways to make it better
Ready reserve, no more. Not going to happen, so reduced to 6 hrs and not so many people on ready.
Earlier notification or proffer choice
Higher credit to get more days off. 11 is all envoy gets on reserve.
Last day of reserve to end early. Right now a pilot on their last day of reserve just on rap 2 can finish at midnight. So he just did 5 on with 3 off but because he finished at midnight, now he has to commute on 1st day off, off one day then commute on off day 3 because he has 4am rap on day 1 of 5
Allow pvds
Many more ways to make it better
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Definitely a long call. No more preassigned RAP1, as it wreaks havoc on commuters' off days. Early finish on last day. If preassigned RAP1's remain, then if commuters are assigned a RAP1 on 1st day of a reserve sequence, then commuters should get a hotel that DOES NOT count against the 4 alloted hotels a month, plus positive space travel to base the day prior. An earlier proffer and confirm window, so that commuters don't waste a day off commuting, only to learn that they didn't need to once they get there, because the 2nd to last flight leaves home prior to ability to confirm the 1st day assignment. This waste time and hotels.
#5
Long call (didn’t realize Envoy didn’t have this)
Min 12 days off
100% deadhead
78 hours min guarantee for Short Call Reserve
Hotel allowance to $4000 /year with no monthly caps as long as the night touches a trip.
Release on the last day of a reserve period is a “hard time”. You can’t be scheduled to fly after the end of the period.
A pilot on Short Call Reserve may not be converted to "Hot" if they have already blocked more than 2 hours in a given day. Can not be converted to "Hot" more than once /reserve period. (Not sure if Envoy has Hot Reserve).
...those are good starts.
Min 12 days off
100% deadhead
78 hours min guarantee for Short Call Reserve
Hotel allowance to $4000 /year with no monthly caps as long as the night touches a trip.
Release on the last day of a reserve period is a “hard time”. You can’t be scheduled to fly after the end of the period.
A pilot on Short Call Reserve may not be converted to "Hot" if they have already blocked more than 2 hours in a given day. Can not be converted to "Hot" more than once /reserve period. (Not sure if Envoy has Hot Reserve).
...those are good starts.
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Long call (didn’t realize Envoy didn’t have this)
Min 12 days off
100% deadhead
78 hours min guarantee for Short Call Reserve
Hotel allowance to $4000 /year with no monthly caps as long as the night touches a trip.
Release on the last day of a reserve period is a “hard time”. You can’t be scheduled to fly after the end of the period.
A pilot on Short Call Reserve may not be converted to "Hot" if they have already blocked more than 2 hours in a given day. Can not be converted to "Hot" more than once /reserve period. (Not sure if Envoy has Hot Reserve).
...those are good starts.
Min 12 days off
100% deadhead
78 hours min guarantee for Short Call Reserve
Hotel allowance to $4000 /year with no monthly caps as long as the night touches a trip.
Release on the last day of a reserve period is a “hard time”. You can’t be scheduled to fly after the end of the period.
A pilot on Short Call Reserve may not be converted to "Hot" if they have already blocked more than 2 hours in a given day. Can not be converted to "Hot" more than once /reserve period. (Not sure if Envoy has Hot Reserve).
...those are good starts.
Also, the reserve hotels should be unlimited for pilots who volunteer for the turn back list.
Minimum 12 hrs between secquences.
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Excelent list. However, Envoy will never get rid of its "Hot" or ready reserve usage. They have an airport standby at JFK that sits for 8 hours and only covers two or three trips. Let that sink in for you. LGA DFW and ORD have three shifts where two CAs and FOs sit for 8 hours for flights.
Also, the reserve hotels should be unlimited for pilots who volunteer for the turn back list.
Minimum 12 hrs between secquences.
Also, the reserve hotels should be unlimited for pilots who volunteer for the turn back list.
Minimum 12 hrs between secquences.
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Long call and short call reserve only, with the current 2-3 hour call for short.
1 pilot per seat for ready reserve if they must have ready.
12 days off minimum.
Commute allowed during first and last reserve period (doesn't affect me).
Selfishly, for me, I'd like to see short call or ready reserve used for turns and any trips that terminate in base so I'd get to sleep at home more.
1 pilot per seat for ready reserve if they must have ready.
12 days off minimum.
Commute allowed during first and last reserve period (doesn't affect me).
Selfishly, for me, I'd like to see short call or ready reserve used for turns and any trips that terminate in base so I'd get to sleep at home more.
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Have the RAP start time built into the reserve schedules. You would have that RAP start time for the full month. You would then profer for trips and standby. Not for RAPs.
Minimum 12 days off for reserve lines.
Have a max amount of times you can be assigned Airport Standby in a month.
Can’t be assigned Airport Standby 2 days in a row.
Can’t be assigned Airport Standby on your last day of reserve. Able to volunteer through.
Limit Airport Standby to 4 or 6 hours.
Get paid for the actual time you sit.
If called out to fly from Airport Standby, automatically released from the rest of your shift when you return to base.
Certain percentage of line Long Call.
Earlier confirmation for following day assignments.
On last day of reserve automatically released to days off at 6pm.
Call me first / call me last option.
Coming from another 121 carrier to Envoy, I am surprised at what terrible reserve rules Envoy has. We need to make fixing reserve a top priority.
Minimum 12 days off for reserve lines.
Have a max amount of times you can be assigned Airport Standby in a month.
Can’t be assigned Airport Standby 2 days in a row.
Can’t be assigned Airport Standby on your last day of reserve. Able to volunteer through.
Limit Airport Standby to 4 or 6 hours.
Get paid for the actual time you sit.
If called out to fly from Airport Standby, automatically released from the rest of your shift when you return to base.
Certain percentage of line Long Call.
Earlier confirmation for following day assignments.
On last day of reserve automatically released to days off at 6pm.
Call me first / call me last option.
Coming from another 121 carrier to Envoy, I am surprised at what terrible reserve rules Envoy has. We need to make fixing reserve a top priority.
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