New hire class sizes
01-09-2018 | 06:49 AM
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Also remember that every month where we hire more than 15-20 pilots is time added to the flow for a new hire. So it is 9 years and growing bigger all the time.
01-09-2018 | 06:58 AM
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Take a quick look at history (2012-2016). I don't think they really care about attracting employess, as keeping pay low has been a primary objective. Attracting/retaining an adequate quantity of employees has historically been a lower priority objective.
In my opinion, it's naive to believe that "pay raises are just around the corner."
These are my personal opinions and not the opinions of any other entity or employer.
In my opinion, it's naive to believe that "pay raises are just around the corner."
These are my personal opinions and not the opinions of any other entity or employer.
A few years ago we had 3300 pilots, AAG was making the largest profits in the history of airlines, and they decided to tell us they "needed" pay cuts from us or they'd liquidate the airline. The pay cuts they were willing to shutter the company over were 0.1% of one quarter's profit, from one employee group spread over 10 years. Being as stingy as possible with your pay is their default mode, beyond the point of it costing them in other ways. They will reluctantly and belatedly raise it only when the proof that they need to is overwhelming.
01-09-2018 | 07:37 AM
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True, but it is also calculated assuming AA never has any training backlogs, and assuming classes in December every year, which they never have. Those things probably roughly cancel each other out, and 9 years is probably as accurate a guess as any other.
Also remember that every month where we hire more than 15-20 pilots is time added to the flow for a new hire. So it is 9 years and growing bigger all the time.
Also remember that every month where we hire more than 15-20 pilots is time added to the flow for a new hire. So it is 9 years and growing bigger all the time.
01-09-2018 | 08:11 AM
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We hired 58 and 75 in two classes. IF and its a big IF all those pilots stayed on property their flow dates could be 8 months to more than a year apart from flow dates. This is also contingent on AA hiring more than 800 pilots no back log and our pilot group still being more than 2000 pilots.
01-15-2018 | 07:35 PM
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We hired 58 and 75 in two classes. IF and its a big IF all those pilots stayed on property their flow dates could be 8 months to more than a year apart from flow dates. This is also contingent on AA hiring more than 800 pilots no back log and our pilot group still being more than 2000 pilots.
01-16-2018 | 06:03 AM
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It will be hard to get 900 this year then with classes of 30 only.
I’m hoping that’s a recruiting gimmick and they can only find maybe 30 guys a class. (We are going to tell everyone we are limited to that though)
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