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AZPilotMike 01-16-2018 07:09 AM

Good decision if you ask me. Endeavor is better all around.

inevitableneb 01-16-2018 07:25 AM

I would probably do the same thing in your position, thanks for sharing

Inop2 01-16-2018 07:54 AM

A thoughtful and accurate assessment...well done! Don’t think I’ve ever seen a unanimous opinion on this forum and I agree. I prefer our flight benefits, medical premiums and the 175 and that’s it. QOL has deteriorated even in my short time here. YOU ARE just a number at Envoy. A couple of examples:

1- When you finish training and pass the checkride, it’s a big deal and accomplishment in your life. Envoy showed zero enthusiasm and in fact I had to track down a set of wings later so my uniform was complete.

2- I expected an email from the CP welcoming me aboard and a congrats on finishing training; nope, nothing. You are a model number rolling down the assembly line at Envoy.

3- I’ve never seen nor heard the CEO of our company speak in any capacity in my time here. How about a quarterly company video or audio of him discussing company performance, policy changes, job well done, improvements we need to make? The word that comes to mind.....apathy.

Ijustlikeflying 01-16-2018 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Inop2 (Post 2504004)
A thoughtful and accurate assessment...well done! Don’t think I’ve ever seen a unanimous opinion on this forum and I agree. I prefer our flight benefits, medical premiums and the 175 and that’s it. QOL has deteriorated even in my short time here. YOU ARE just a number at Envoy. A couple of examples:

1- When you finish training and pass the checkride, it’s a big deal and accomplishment in your life. Envoy showed zero enthusiasm and in fact I had to track down a set of wings later so my uniform was complete.

2- I expected an email from the CP welcoming me aboard and a congrats on finishing training; nope, nothing. You are a model number rolling down the assembly line at Envoy.

3- I’ve never seen nor heard the CEO of our company speak in any capacity in my time here. How about a quarterly company video or audio of him discussing company performance, policy changes, job well done, improvements we need to make? The word that comes to mind.....apathy.

^^^^this is all true for me and many others as well.

HoustonPilot 01-16-2018 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Inop2 (Post 2504004)
A thoughtful and accurate assessment...well done! Don’t think I’ve ever seen a unanimous opinion on this forum and I agree. I prefer our flight benefits, medical premiums and the 175 and that’s it. QOL has deteriorated even in my short time here. YOU ARE just a number at Envoy. A couple of examples:

1- When you finish training and pass the checkride, it’s a big deal and accomplishment in your life. Envoy showed zero enthusiasm and in fact I had to track down a set of wings later so my uniform was complete.

2- I expected an email from the CP welcoming me aboard and a congrats on finishing training; nope, nothing. You are a model number rolling down the assembly line at Envoy.

3- I’ve never seen nor heard the CEO of our company speak in any capacity in my time here. How about a quarterly company video or audio of him discussing company performance, policy changes, job well done, improvements we need to make? The word that comes to mind.....apathy.

But, I got an email congratulating me on my year anniversary. So someone up there must care.

Jersdawg 01-16-2018 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by HoustonPilot (Post 2504187)
But, I got an email congratulating me on my year anniversary. So someone up there must care.

Envoy Automaton 3.5.63.4 cares! He will also send you an email minutes after you call out sick to clear your sick call and also when your medical is about to expire.

ceelo 01-16-2018 12:22 PM

Envoy needs to get their sh!t together.

On their own forum here we have countless people saying "I chose EDV" or "whatever you do DONT come here"

when will it get better? will it ever get better?

AZPilotMike 01-16-2018 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by ceelo (Post 2504234)
Envoy needs to get their sh!t together.

On their own forum here we have countless people saying "I chose EDV" or "whatever you do DONT come here"

when will it get better? will it ever get better?

It will get better when they increase pay, give us decent schedules that are remotely efficient and improve reserve rules. Pretty simple really.

ORDinary 01-16-2018 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Inop2 (Post 2504004)
A thoughtful and accurate assessment...well done! Don’t think I’ve ever seen a unanimous opinion on this forum and I agree. I prefer our flight benefits, medical premiums and the 175 and that’s it. QOL has deteriorated even in my short time here. YOU ARE just a number at Envoy. A couple of examples:

1- When you finish training and pass the checkride, it’s a big deal and accomplishment in your life. Envoy showed zero enthusiasm and in fact I had to track down a set of wings later so my uniform was complete.

2- I expected an email from the CP welcoming me aboard and a congrats on finishing training; nope, nothing. You are a model number rolling down the assembly line at Envoy.

3- I’ve never seen nor heard the CEO of our company speak in any capacity in my time here. How about a quarterly company video or audio of him discussing company performance, policy changes, job well done, improvements we need to make? The word that comes to mind.....apathy.

I bolded the only part of your post I disagree with. QOL has been bad here for years.

SilentLurker 01-16-2018 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by f16jetmech (Post 2503596)
Enjoy commuting! Glad you're happy with your decision.



He/she would have had to commute for a while anyways at ENY.

As many has said it’s a good decision to select EDV is job is offered at both. Plus EDV seemed more organized in projecting and offering a class date on the spot! Smart move taking it. EDV is a superior regional IMHO if you look at the data.

Yes, lots of pilots commute. Nothing enjoyable about it. Nothing enjoyable about deployments either, but you do what you have to do for your family, career, and future.


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