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Originally Posted by Inop2
(Post 2504823)
Who the said anything about parties, chocolates or flowers? Stick with what I said not some extreme exaggeration you can dream up. If you can accurately quote me and provide a fair counterpoint please do.
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Originally Posted by Inop2
(Post 2504004)
A thoughtful and accurate assessment...well done! Don’t think I’ve ever seen a unanimous opinion on this forum and I agree. I prefer our flight benefits, medical premiums and the 175 and that’s it. QOL has deteriorated even in my short time here. YOU ARE just a number at Envoy. A couple of examples:
1- When you finish training and pass the checkride, it’s a big deal and accomplishment in your life. Envoy showed zero enthusiasm and in fact I had to track down a set of wings later so my uniform was complete. 2- I expected an email from the CP welcoming me aboard and a congrats on finishing training; nope, nothing. You are a model number rolling down the assembly line at Envoy. 3- I’ve never seen nor heard the CEO of our company speak in any capacity in my time here. How about a quarterly company video or audio of him discussing company performance, policy changes, job well done, improvements we need to make? The word that comes to mind.....apathy. For point 3, I agree that our President could communicate better to the employees. |
Originally Posted by SkylineAviation
(Post 2504840)
Sorry, you're right...management should show a great deal of "enthusiasm" for your "accomplishment." Would you like the CP to welcome 100ish guys per month personally with a phone call or email after the checkride or completing IOE?
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Originally Posted by LineUpAndPay
(Post 2504687)
Personally I would prefer that the CPO not know me and think of me as just a number.
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Originally Posted by Inop2
(Post 2504869)
An example that comes to mind is write an email to welcome them to our base, congratulate them for their accomplishment and set a tone of goals and expectations that were in line with AA. Delegate the sending of the email to the admin to all new people to the base. How long does it take to copy and paste 20 names that just joined our base. I’m not talking about company wide.
Honestly, what would amount to a form letter, which is all they could really do if they were to even consider this, would be something I’d roll my eyes at anyway. |
Originally Posted by bigtime209
(Post 2504848)
For points 1 and 2, if you expect that at any airline and you're looking for someone to pat you on the back for finishing a training event, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Get used to it. Completing training is honestly not that big of a deal. It's doing your job.
For point 3, I agree that our President could communicate better to the employees. I appreciate your contributions here and like the read but your overstating what I said. Did I say I needed someone to come give me a pat on the back? Let me state this again in other words. Is sending the quick example email above to a new pilot and making sure our process provided everything a pilot needs to safety and in the image of Envoy/AA giving them “ flowers and chocolates”? I learned yesterday that when Pedro first started he was a communicator and did the things I criticized but was told by AA to knock it off. If true.., I’d like to apologize for that comment. |
Originally Posted by Inop2
(Post 2504744)
One of the most concise “give me a double-helping of that **** sandwich” answers I’ve seen. The consensus is Endeavor management is doing a better job in people skills.
You’re a cog in a gigantic machine. Same as you’d be at endeavor, delta, AA, SWA, etc. Show up, don’t crash, go home, cash check. That’s it. |
Originally Posted by mainlineAF
(Post 2504884)
Dude you did your job. Congratulations. You should start a new tradition of cutting off the back of your shirt once you finish sims and hanging it in the training center with your signature.
You’re a cog in a gigantic machine. Same as you’d be at endeavor, delta, AA, SWA, etc. Show up, don’t crash, go home, cash check. That’s it. |
Originally Posted by mainlineAF
(Post 2504644)
News flash... no airline is going to send you flowers and chocolates for finishing training. You’re just a number. The sooner you figure that out the easier life will be.
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Originally Posted by Cpt Rex Kramer
(Post 2504874)
^^^ This ^^^
But we don’t so you’re right. Become a number and nothing more. |
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