I live in DFW. I chose EDV.
01-17-2018 | 02:41 AM
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A thoughtful and accurate assessment...well done! Don’t think I’ve ever seen a unanimous opinion on this forum and I agree. I prefer our flight benefits, medical premiums and the 175 and that’s it. QOL has deteriorated even in my short time here. YOU ARE just a number at Envoy. A couple of examples:
1- When you finish training and pass the checkride, it’s a big deal and accomplishment in your life. Envoy showed zero enthusiasm and in fact I had to track down a set of wings later so my uniform was complete.
2- I expected an email from the CP welcoming me aboard and a congrats on finishing training; nope, nothing. You are a model number rolling down the assembly line at Envoy.
3- I’ve never seen nor heard the CEO of our company speak in any capacity in my time here. How about a quarterly company video or audio of him discussing company performance, policy changes, job well done, improvements we need to make? The word that comes to mind.....apathy.
1- When you finish training and pass the checkride, it’s a big deal and accomplishment in your life. Envoy showed zero enthusiasm and in fact I had to track down a set of wings later so my uniform was complete.
2- I expected an email from the CP welcoming me aboard and a congrats on finishing training; nope, nothing. You are a model number rolling down the assembly line at Envoy.
3- I’ve never seen nor heard the CEO of our company speak in any capacity in my time here. How about a quarterly company video or audio of him discussing company performance, policy changes, job well done, improvements we need to make? The word that comes to mind.....apathy.
News flash... no airline is going to send you flowers and chocolates for finishing training. You’re just a number. The sooner you figure that out the easier life will be.
01-17-2018 | 02:48 AM
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Exactly. But the new generation has to be told that they are doing a good job every step of the way or their feelings get hurt.
01-17-2018 | 04:00 AM
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Congrats on getting the CJO here at EDV. but I hate to break it to you but you are also just a number here. They really pour on the kool aid thick here. The disconnect from upper management and line pilots is very real. They actually tell new hires if they wear the hat they will get the job at delta. If I lived in DFW it would be a no brainer to go to Envoy...commuting is the devil. Appearance versus reality are two very different things here right now and you will find that out very quickly.
01-17-2018 | 04:12 AM
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01-17-2018 | 04:46 AM
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But yeah, this guy expecting more is pretty hilarious. Personally I would prefer that the CPO not know me and think of me as just a number.
01-17-2018 | 06:19 AM
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One of the most concise “give me a double-helping of that **** sandwich” answers I’ve seen. The consensus is Endeavor management is doing a better job in people skills.
01-17-2018 | 06:42 AM
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And as the past has constantly shown that things change very fast in the airlines, especially the regional's. And today's sub-par regional can quickly go to the best and vice-versa.
01-17-2018 | 07:31 AM
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Oh please, mainlineAF is right. Endeavor is no different and their CP and is not out calling all new hires congratulating them for passing their training as part of their job. They are better than us in some areas for sure, but to say our management should be throwing parties or making personal calls to congratulate new hires is ridiculous.
And as the past has constantly shown that things change very fast in the airlines, especially the regional's. And today's sub-par regional can quickly go to the best and vice-versa.
And as the past has constantly shown that things change very fast in the airlines, especially the regional's. And today's sub-par regional can quickly go to the best and vice-versa.
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