Now take this with a grain of salt, I currently work for this company.

I enjoy working here for the near 2 years on property. With every regional there's pro's and con's but this new recruitment tactic has me thinking...

Being based where I am, senior and enjoying a great QOL at the moment. But the forced upgrade will be rearing it's ugly head soon.

I was discussing the fact of all you HVA's that are currently getting on with envoy attracted to quick upgrade times towards being a Captain and also to some of you whom have prior 121 time and can hold captain right away. Let me say, I welcome you with open arms regardless of reasoning or decision.

But the thing is I wonder to myself is once you come on property, don't you think your stay here won't be as dreamy as you thought it may be? Not to mention you're not helping the cause of getting better pay rates because classes are still getting filled and you see these bonus'snice 45k bonus's (Which are already taxed heavily)

Because the way I see it.You get on property, you become captain, then you sit reserve. Not even thinking all this time about the 2015(Maybe even earlier) through early 2017 new hires that may be upgrading soon as well, possibly displacing you out of your base as well as jumping over you in regards to seniority and you're inevitably going to just get pushed lower and lower down the totem pole in regards to the reserve list....

I understand why you come here, but sitting your whole career here on reserve has got to suck. At least that's what I forsee happening.Not to mention a near decade flow!

Yes there's going to be movement, but with an already metered flow, and the way they abuse reserves already, were you really thinking? Or did you see quick upgrade and that bonus you decided to send it?

I feel like you've been "Envoyed" as we say here, but maybe it's just me.

You guys see whats in front of you, but forget to see the picture far ahead of you.

Wish you the best of luck regardless, but something to think about for the ones thinking about coming on and the ones currently here.

Feel free to discuss without acting like elementry school children in the school yard.

 

Lol...wow. You've been here 2 whole years. Hot damn...you've got it all figured out. Lay it on us brotha. Tell us the ways of the force...

 

Never did I say how I have it figured out.

I gave my thoughts and opinions based on what I've seen and heard during my time here.

Feel free to add something insightful and maybe I might learn something from you, I'm not saying you have to agree with what I personally think, but right now you sound bitter, and hell you may have every right to be.

But lighten up man. I said discuss, not be a d*ck. I mean unless you don't think we could be compensated more, and have better reserve rules...

 

Bonus isn't taxed heavily. It is withheld at a higher rate, but you get it back when you file.

 

The HVA tactic is bogus and if you have enough 121 time to qualify for it then it can be assumed that you know enough about the industry, and you’re able to come to terms with the fact that you’re going to be on reserve for a long time. Life isn’t so different for the poor CRJ CAs with next to no movement. But I say bring them in. This will only last so long before the pool of people willing to subject themselves to what’s involved runs out. That just means a higher stack of bodies beneath me and you when we upgrade. That’s why every little thing you can do to keep that forced upgrade in the future makes a difference for you.

 

To the best of my knowledge, of the 11 prior 121 guys and girls in the 29 Jan class there were no HVA bonus people (but I didn't go polling them either), and of that number 3 were upgradeable on the next bid.

 

Because I got back nearly 10k when I filed last year right?

Please tell me more on how it isn't taxed heavily. Or should I just fire my accountant?

 

Im on the same boat bro. Networking is the key!

 

Your reading comprehension skills are as bad as your Google skills.

If your bonus was 10,000, your withholding would have been 25% of that, which is $2500.

When you file, if your tax rate is lower than 25%, you will get the difference back.

https://blog.turbotax.intuit.com/inc...-the-irs-8003/

https://www.patriotsoftware.com/payr...age-aggregate/

You would have only gotten back a couple of hundred bucks.

 

Ooo look at you bragging about being “senior” with a whole 2 years of experience. Trying being a FO on reserve for 4 years. Also not getting paid any bonuses like you do now. Believe me there’s much worse things then sitting reserve as a CA for a year or two before a major picks you up.