Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma

I’m having a difficult time with this HVA concept, lol. If it’s high-value people they seek, why not offer high-value terms and conditions? Ever heard of a pay rise, or a roster?

I’d spend the 45k (if you’re lucky to take home 30) on moving costs, commuting, etc., etc. within six months. Then what, perma-reserve in an unaffordable domicile? Yeesh.

Originally Posted by AcesHigh

They see money like a 20 dollar hooker (US Dollar) sees an American in Colombia.

They all flock at once, thinking they might snag him for marriage, fall in love, then BOOM he's married with 2 kids with 1 one the way.**

There's always strings attached.

** Note all references above are not based upon real life experiences. But quite possibly have seen some ish.

Originally Posted by havick206

HardLemonade is that you?

Originally Posted by mmkkyy

Here is my response for you and any one else startled at other pilots willing to take the 45k insta cap. and perma reserve in LGA.

At my current company I am a line holder FO with an ok QOL. Current 10+ year captains here still commuting to reserve with little movement off the top. I will see upgrade years from now most likely 2-3 years and would then be commuting to reserve for the foreseeable future , if things don’t improve. No progression to a major, a descent contract, but contracts don’t pay my bills.

Envoy flashes 45k and upgrades at me. I don’t loose much, my QOL would be the same here when I upgrade in 2 years. Sure I’m going to have to commute to reserve at Envoy and be in the lovely NYC or ORD for a while, still would be paying for the same situation here.

If I get a “real” flow to fall back on, 45k and double my current hr rate to go sit reserve for a year. It’s very tempting and I am still contemplating it.

Originally Posted by havick206

HardLemonade is that you?