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Old 02-06-2018 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jonrayburn
I was always curious as to why more people dont refuse a JM. It doesn’t count as an MA.
Don't want to file a fatigue report? We've been told that if you refuse JM you have to file one. NH here, so don't know square from blue yet
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Old 02-06-2018 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver
Why not upgrade? Im tired of flying with DB's myself.
That's your problem, whether you upgrade or not, there will always be a DB in the cockpit. You can't run from yourself.
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Old 02-06-2018 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jonrayburn
I was always curious as to why more people dont refuse a JM. It doesn’t count as an MA.


HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That’s funny. There must be a problem with Sabre because that’s what exactly happened to me.


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Old 02-06-2018 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by highflyer1980
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That’s funny. There must be a problem with Sabre because that’s what exactly happened to me.


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Yea, I had a laugh when I read that too 😂
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Old 02-06-2018 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jonrayburn
I was always curious as to why more people dont refuse a JM. It doesn’t count as an MA.
That’s not exactly true, you’ll get a MA unless this situation applies:

The placeholder code “UA” will be used instead of “MA” under the following circumstances:
a. The use of the “UA” code shall be limited to cases where the Company is contacting pilots in reverse order of seniority on a day off, to fill open time in accordance with Section 11.I.1.e-f.
b. When a pilot is positively notified of a junior man assignment by the Company per Section 11.I.1.e-f. and the pilot is unable to accept this assignment due to personal reasons, the Company will use the absence code “UA” in his planned absence record (HI10 or *4) as a placeholder.
c. Only the Domicile Chief Pilot, in consult with the pilot, will be permitted to remove or replace the “UA” code.

So basically only if they call you at home on your day off.
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Old 02-06-2018 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by AcesHigh
Because I got back nearly 10k when I filed last year right?



Please tell me more on how it isn't taxed heavily. Or should I just fire my accountant?
Exactly, I DID NOT GET BACK “MOST OF MY BONUS BACK IN TAXES.”
My bonus was taxed heavily, maybe because of higher income, and higher tax rate. I did not see it most of my returns in my tax return last year. Plus we exceeded standard deductions, gave a ton to charity, and wrote off property tax & interest.

Some of my class mates I have been in communication with said they did NOT get most of it back either when asked last year.

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Old 02-06-2018 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SilentLurker
Exactly! I DID NOT GET “MOST OF MY BONUS BACK IN TAXES.”
My bonus was taxed heavily, I did not see it in my tax return last year. Plus we exceeded standard deductions, gave a ton to charity, and wrote off property tax & interest. Get tried hard to get me back as much of my refund as he could legally. So I don’t know what some of you are doing (lie perhaps) to get most of your bonus back.

Some of my class mates I have been in communication with said they did NOT get most of it back either when asked last year.

No one said you will get back most of the withholding. I said you will get back the difference between your withholding rate, 25%, and your tax rate, whatever that is.
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Old 02-06-2018 | 09:06 AM
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I don’t know who you are quoting as nobody in this thread said you’d get “most” of it back.

Guys this isn’t hard.
25% is withheld initially. Only when you file will you then know your income tax rate for that year. That bonus will be taxed accordingly.
If your effective tax rate is <25% = appropriate refund.
>25% = you have to write a check (depending)

What the hell is a HVA?
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Old 02-06-2018 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Daytripper13
That’s not exactly true, you’ll get a MA unless this situation applies:



The placeholder code “UA” will be used instead of “MA” under the following circumstances:

a. The use of the “UA” code shall be limited to cases where the Company is contacting pilots in reverse order of seniority on a day off, to fill open time in accordance with Section 11.I.1.e-f.

b. When a pilot is positively notified of a junior man assignment by the Company per Section 11.I.1.e-f. and the pilot is unable to accept this assignment due to personal reasons, the Company will use the absence code “UA” in his planned absence record (HI10 or *4) as a placeholder.

c. Only the Domicile Chief Pilot, in consult with the pilot, will be permitted to remove or replace the “UA” code.



So basically only if they call you at home on your day off.


I know you just copied from the contract but line b. has a typo. It should say.....

b. When a pilot is positively notified of a junior man assignment and is unable to accept due to personal reasons, the company will reprimand such pilot regardless of number of denials during employment. A “MA” will be issued after your CP will not actively listen and care nothing about your reasons of denial and be appropriately documented in pilots company record. Make it quick, the flight is waiting.


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Old 02-06-2018 | 09:14 AM
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For all the new guys who haven’t figured it out. If it’s black and white in the contract, the company selectively follows what’s in THEIR BEST INTEREST. Do not rely on people’s stories of “well that didn’t happen to me, they were very accommodating”. After 11 years, I as well as even more junior and senior have learned that this isn’t always the case. Tread lightly, and carry gel.


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