2017 Earnings
02-10-2018, 08:39 AM
#23
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Originally Posted by Inop2
Line holder for all of 2017, commuter, flew my schedule minus 2 segments. No OT, sign on bonus was in 2016, no referrals in 2017 and no retention bonus this year because of the creative structure of how it’s paid out. W2 Box 1.... $31.1 K. I realize flying is a dream for many including me but I’ve burned through $8k in savings to supplement my pay. If you live in base you can pick up OT and make the situation a lot better otherwise....
02-10-2018, 05:19 PM
#24
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Originally Posted by mojo6911
Ouch. Is this pretty typical?
Min guarantee of 72 hours @ 37.90 = $32,745
Per Diem (using 250hrs/mo. at 1.85) = $5,550
FO retention = $10,000
No OT = $0
Total = $48,295
02-10-2018, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskey4
Conservative example for 2017:
Min guarantee of 72 hours @ 37.90 = $32,745
Per Diem (using 250hrs/mo. at 1.85) = $5,550
FO retention = $10,000
No OT = $0
Total = $48,295
Min guarantee of 72 hours @ 37.90 = $32,745
Per Diem (using 250hrs/mo. at 1.85) = $5,550
FO retention = $10,000
No OT = $0
Total = $48,295
Also, per diem is NOT wages. Sure one can spend per diem however one wishes, but per diem is a reimbursement for expenses, not wages.
02-10-2018, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mojo6911
Ouch. Is this pretty typical?
You’ll most likely spend most of the per diem on food and nescessities so I wouldn’t plan on that being extra income.
02-11-2018, 11:27 AM
#28
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Originally Posted by 3EngineTaxi
Sorry that's not "conservative." He specifically stated he was ineligible for the retention bonus.
Also, per diem is NOT wages. Sure one can spend per diem however one wishes, but per diem is a reimbursement for expenses, not wages.
Also, per diem is NOT wages. Sure one can spend per diem however one wishes, but per diem is a reimbursement for expenses, not wages.
Fight it all you want. The “typical” person makes more than $31k. And yes, per diem is a part of compensation. Or shall we have the company take it away in the next contract since it isn’t a wage. You are spending money that the company is then reimbursing, which means that no matter how you slice it that is a form of income. You are literally trying to make this job sound worse than it is, which is pretty much all that happens on APC.
02-11-2018, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskey4
For a “typical” person...it absolutely is. Maybe not for his particular situation, but the next poster asked if that was “typical”. Besides, how is someone not eligible for retention bonus? Upgraded to CA perhaps? Great...then their hourly wage now makes up the difference.
Fight it all you want. The “typical” person makes more than $31k. And yes, per diem is a part of compensation. Or shall we have the company take it away in the next contract since it isn’t a wage. You are spending money that the company is then reimbursing, which means that no matter how you slice it that is a form of income. You are literally trying to make this job sound worse than it is, which is pretty much all that happens on APC.
Fight it all you want. The “typical” person makes more than $31k. And yes, per diem is a part of compensation. Or shall we have the company take it away in the next contract since it isn’t a wage. You are spending money that the company is then reimbursing, which means that no matter how you slice it that is a form of income. You are literally trying to make this job sound worse than it is, which is pretty much all that happens on APC.
02-11-2018, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Subpilot
Per Diem is not income. It is an employer reembursement to cover job related expenses that would otherwise reduce your income.
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