Seniority and Flow
06-17-2018 | 01:42 PM
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Agreed. NY may not be somebody’s first choice of base, but I definitely wouldn’t avoid Envoy altogether simply because you might have to spend a few months in the Big Apple.
06-17-2018 | 02:23 PM
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06-17-2018 | 04:30 PM
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Flow is still based on overall company seniority.
Having said that there may be some merit to what you heard. Voluntary CA upgrades are subject to a 1 year seat lock which will prevent flow. If someone wants to upgrade but thinks the seat lock may delay their flow waiting to upgrade on the 175 vs taking a 145 upgrade that's available now could make a difference.
Having said that there may be some merit to what you heard. Voluntary CA upgrades are subject to a 1 year seat lock which will prevent flow. If someone wants to upgrade but thinks the seat lock may delay their flow waiting to upgrade on the 175 vs taking a 145 upgrade that's available now could make a difference.
06-18-2018 | 10:32 AM
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Hey Havick, I recently moved from Dallas to the suburbs of PHL. (Wife is from here) 2-3 hour drive to LGA depending on the time of day. Would love to hear how LGA 145 is (lines, overnights, flying etc) from somebody who actually wants to be there. Thanks!
06-18-2018 | 10:33 AM
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Probably referring to the upcoming standing bid they will have for, most likely, 145 LGA. That will allow someone to voluntarily upgrade without waiting for the next bid. That will be a two year seat lock. That being said, I seriously doubt there is ANYONE who is within a timeframe that is affected by the flow seatlock that hasn’t already upgraded. Could be an issue if someone was already a captain in CRJ or 145 and wanted to fly the 175 their last year at Envoy.
06-18-2018 | 12:41 PM
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PM me if you want
06-19-2018 | 06:33 AM
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FYI, there are still 167 pilots from 2007 waiting to flow, 113 from 2008, 0 from 2009, 86 from 2010, 237 from 2011. You and I probably have different understandings of the meaning of "relatively few."
However, there are indeed relatively few from the several years after 2011:
5 from 2012
67 from 2013
57 from 2014
75 from 2015.
Hiring really increased near the end of 2016, and 2017 was a huge year.
(All numbers are approximate.)
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