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Old 07-24-2018, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by V12Merlin View Post
Mine wasn’t strait forward at all. I read where if you had 121 exp that it was only hr. Couldn’t have been farther from the facts. H R part was great. Very professional young aviator out on medical. He extended me professional courtesy. Then they sprang a sim ride on me with no notice. I flew it fine. It’s supposed to be a Beech Baron but this thing flew like ah!t. Would’ve been nice to have had the info prior to interview but whatever. It’s Eagle, I worked there before so I was used to being lied to. Then 2 snowflakes grilled the Sh!t out of me on technical. It was clear I wasn’t welcomed there—even tho I’d been a captain for 5 years at old AMR Eagle. I’d have been 20 years senior to them—if not for 9-11.

But here’s the best part of the interview. When the last snowflake came to give me the “bad news”. I informed him that I already had 2 other job offers with class dates for both.



Hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha

Net result I have a much better offer with 2 other great companies and those dumbasses are still short. Nothing has changed there but the paint job.

I got the last laugh.
Were the snowflakes touting the flow? Because by the time anyone hired now flows the retirement wave will just about be over. They are already metering the flow. So what they said about timelines was a lie. No surprise. It still amazes me how they act like they are offering this great thing that you have to bow down to them for.
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Old 07-24-2018, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by V12Merlin View Post
Mine wasn’t strait forward at all. I read where if you had 121 exp that it was only hr. Couldn’t have been farther from the facts. H R part was great. Very professional young aviator out on medical. He extended me professional courtesy. Then they sprang a sim ride on me with no notice. I flew it fine. It’s supposed to be a Beech Baron but this thing flew like ah!t. Would’ve been nice to have had the info prior to interview but whatever. It’s Eagle, I worked there before so I was used to being lied to. Then 2 snowflakes grilled the Sh!t out of me on technical. It was clear I wasn’t welcomed there—even tho I’d been a captain for 5 years at old AMR Eagle. I’d have been 20 years senior to them—if not for 9-11.

But here’s the best part of the interview. When the last snowflake came to give me the “bad news”. I informed him that I already had 2 other job offers with class dates for both.



Hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha

Net result I have a much better offer with 2 other great companies and those dumbasses are still short. Nothing has changed there but the paint job.

I got the last laugh.
So you had 2 much better offers and still wasted your time with an interview? Sounds logical.
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Old 07-24-2018, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by sflpilot View Post
Were the snowflakes touting the flow? Because by the time anyone hired now flows the retirement wave will just about be over. They are already metering the flow. So what they said about timelines was a lie. No surprise. It still amazes me how they act like they are offering this great thing that you have to bow down to them for.
Oh of course they did.
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Old 07-25-2018, 04:20 AM
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Did they say why they wanted to do technical and sim interviews? I know on the FO side they add sim interviews when people aren't IFR current. I assume you have been out of the cockpit awhile?
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Old 07-25-2018, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by sflpilot View Post
Were the snowflakes touting the flow? Because by the time anyone hired now flows the retirement wave will just about be over. They are already metering the flow. So what they said about timelines was a lie. No surprise. It still amazes me how they act like they are offering this great thing that you have to bow down to them for.
I don't think the "metering" happening presently matters that much in terms of how it affects longterm flow certainty. The metering that will matter is when the retirement wave hits in full force and even people who are too pale and too male right now start getting street hired at major airlines. Envoy will not flow itself to death.
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Old 07-25-2018, 09:23 AM
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I don’t think v12 is worried about flow. Probably just gastric sleeve and southwest based on his thread history
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Old 07-25-2018, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator View Post
I don't think the "metering" happening presently matters that much in terms of how it affects longterm flow certainty. The metering that will matter is when the retirement wave hits in full force and even people who are too pale and too male right now start getting street hired at major airlines. Envoy will not flow itself to death.
They will need to up the pay and benefits too try and keep the older crowed at Envoy then, otherwise you are correct.

There are only a few possible outcomes to all of this. Regional get absorbed into mainline and the seniority lists merge, regionals have to get their pay closer to what you can expect to make as a 3-4 year FO at mainline plus the benefits, scope clause will need to change, retirement age increased and minimums for an ATP lowered or lastly, legislation to remove one pilot from the scenario. Those are all possible ways to get around the problem.

It may be all, some or none but at the end of the day, mainline doesn't want to sink their regionals but they cant not fly their mainline routes either.

We simply dont have enough people below us anymore, something is going to have to change.
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Old 07-25-2018, 05:20 PM
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Did they say why they wanted to do technical and sim interviews? I know on the FO side they add sim interviews when people aren't IFR current. I assume you have been out of the cockpit awhile?
No they didn’t say anything about it. I didn’t really have a problem with doing a sim ride. But I was supposed to have received information about the sim profile and speeds before coming to the interview. I flew it pretty good, just a takeoff, vectors for an ILS. I briefed the miss and the hold entry, popped out at mins and landed.

But really. Technical? For a seasoned captain?

My question is this

Do you guys think these idiotic questions are a realistic measure of a pilots intelligence, or a gauge of a pilots resoursefulness in getting the answers to the questions beforehand?

I don’t memorize checklists or approach plates. Why in the hell would I commit to my memory things that are readily available on a chart legend?
The other 2 job offers I have didn’t ask 1 technical question. My 10,000 plus hours of 121 exp did all the talking.

Any idiot could figure that out.
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Old 07-25-2018, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by V12Merlin View Post
No they didn’t say anything about it. I didn’t really have a problem with doing a sim ride. But I was supposed to have received information about the sim profile and speeds before coming to the interview. I flew it pretty good, just a takeoff, vectors for an ILS. I briefed the miss and the hold entry, popped out at mins and landed.

But really. Technical? For a seasoned captain?

My question is this

Do you guys think these idiotic questions are a realistic measure of a pilots intelligence, or a gauge of a pilots resoursefulness in getting the answers to the questions beforehand?

I don’t memorize checklists or approach plates. Why in the hell would I commit to my memory things that are readily available on a chart legend?
The other 2 job offers I have didn’t ask 1 technical question. My 10,000 plus hours of 121 exp did all the talking.

Any idiot could figure that out.
Perhaps just another filter to see if you really are interested in the job and can be bothered to look at what is a canned exercise prior (motivation assessment rather than knowledge assessment).
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Old 07-25-2018, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by V12Merlin View Post
No they didn’t say anything about it. I didn’t really have a problem with doing a sim ride. But I was supposed to have received information about the sim profile and speeds before coming to the interview. I flew it pretty good, just a takeoff, vectors for an ILS. I briefed the miss and the hold entry, popped out at mins and landed.

But really. Technical? For a seasoned captain?

My question is this

Do you guys think these idiotic questions are a realistic measure of a pilots intelligence, or a gauge of a pilots resoursefulness in getting the answers to the questions beforehand?

I don’t memorize checklists or approach plates. Why in the hell would I commit to my memory things that are readily available on a chart legend?
The other 2 job offers I have didn’t ask 1 technical question. My 10,000 plus hours of 121 exp did all the talking.

Any idiot could figure that out.
It's a good thing that those other 2 offers were vastly superior so you don't even have to worry about coming here. After all, you only have a few years left in the game.
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