Here Comes Swayne
#121
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THIS^^^^^There are numerous completed apps on file at AA from well qualified Envoy pilots that have the PIC time, the check airman box checked, 4 year degree, etc....Anyone that says the only reason AA isn't hiring more from Envoy is due to lack of qualified apps is full of sh*t.
#123
That means one of three things. Flow numbers will increase. OTS Military will increase. OTS Civilian will increase. Or some of all of the above.
I have a furrowed brow as to how many more OTS Military can increase, unless AA is able to steal more from the other majors hiring stream. How many more will be hired from flow each month? Some more, but at some point AA does not want to cave in their WO.
My crystal ball says, while flows will increase some, there will be a significant increase in OTS Civilian (more than the 9% of total hires in 2017). Flow will still be bigger than OTS Civilian, but the 9% was a drop in the bucket last year.
Things are about to get real interesting.
#124
Over the next few years, hiring numbers at American will increase. This year’s target is 900 (or 930). In just 5 years, mandatory retirement will be 957 for the year, up from 528 this year.
That means one of three things. Flow numbers will increase. OTS Military will increase. OTS Civilian will increase. Or some of all of the above.
I have a furrowed brow as to how many more OTS Military can increase, unless AA is able to steal more from the other majors hiring stream. How many more will be hired from flow each month? Some more, but at some point AA does not want to cave in their WO.
My crystal ball says, while flows will increase some, there will be a significant increase in OTS Civilian (more than the 9% of total hires in 2017). Flow will still be bigger than OTS Civilian, but the 9% was a drop in the bucket last year.
Things are about to get real interesting.
That means one of three things. Flow numbers will increase. OTS Military will increase. OTS Civilian will increase. Or some of all of the above.
I have a furrowed brow as to how many more OTS Military can increase, unless AA is able to steal more from the other majors hiring stream. How many more will be hired from flow each month? Some more, but at some point AA does not want to cave in their WO.
My crystal ball says, while flows will increase some, there will be a significant increase in OTS Civilian (more than the 9% of total hires in 2017). Flow will still be bigger than OTS Civilian, but the 9% was a drop in the bucket last year.
Things are about to get real interesting.
#126
Just to add to this. Y’all better befriend him and stop taking a dump on his success thus far. Besides potentially having a decent network (or does?), he seems like an awesome guy to be around.
#127
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This brings up a question. Let's say a swayne-type person gets a couple of years of 121 time and gets an interview invitation at a major at 25. At the same time, a 40-year old captain who works for the same regional as the other guy and has at least twice the flight time and comparable educational credentials and achievements does not get an invite while applying during the same window. Isn't this a definition of age-based discrimination? Not even talking about the performance comparison during the interview because one of the two pilots hasn't even been given an opportunity to perform. Thoughts?
Last edited by pilotmunk; 09-04-2018 at 05:39 AM.
#128
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Happens every day unfortunately.
This brings up a question. Let's say a swayne-type person gets a couple of years of 121 time and gets an interview invitation at a major at 25. At the same time, a 40-year old captain who works for the same regional as the other guy and has at least twice the flight time and comparable educational credentials and achievements does not get an invite while applying during the same window. Isn't this a definition of age-based discrimination? Not even talking about the performance comparison during the interview because one of the two pilots hasn't even been given an opportunity to perform. Thoughts?
#129
This brings up a question. Let's say a swayne-type person gets a couple of years of 121 time and gets an interview invitation at a major at 25. At the same time, a 40-year old captain who works for the same regional as the other guy and has at least twice the flight time and comparable educational credentials and achievements does not get an invite while applying during the same window. Isn't this a definition of age-based discrimination? Not even talking about the performance comparison during the interview because one of the two pilots hasn't even been given an opportunity to perform. Thoughts?
#130
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The majors are hiring guys in their 60’s right now, so it’s going to be tough to prove age discrimination. He seems like the type of guy who will take to the steps to bolster his resume. He probably has some good mentors as well. This is what will get him an invite, not his age or his Vlog. He will put the work in, that’s not a knock on anybody here waiting to flow, just an observation based off watching the one video in the link.


