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regionalpilot11 05-08-2021 01:06 PM

Y'all are missing the point
 
No problem with SM.

No problem with him makin dolla dolla bills.

Big problem with the company giving access (that we folk aint got) that make him dolla dolla bills.

Seeing the "sponsored by" in conjunction with "includes paid promotion" is no bueno.

501kp 05-08-2021 01:23 PM

"Big problem with the company giving access (that we folk aint got) that make him dolla dolla bills."

This. He is a poster child. Would it work if he was 300 pounds? Would fifty shades of grey work if the guy was homeless instead of a billionaire?

Inclined plane 05-08-2021 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3232505)
Again, the gripe is against the company, NOT the individual.
Let it go.


The gripe can be with whoever the F one wants it to be GTFO


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SonicFlyer 05-08-2021 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3232476)
Tell me you won’t be more than a little miffed at the INDIVIDUAL as well as the company.

No, because I'm a thinking individual, not a simple-minded union knuckle-dragging Neanderthal.

pitchattitude 05-08-2021 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3232623)
No, because I'm a thinking individual, not a simple-minded union knuckle-dragging Neanderthal.

Well, despite your lack of care for the pilot group, I guess we do have SOMETHING in common, because neither am I.

SoFloFlyer 05-08-2021 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by Inclined plane (Post 3232588)
The gripe can be with whoever the F one wants it to be GTFO


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You seem disgruntled :)

Inclined plane 05-08-2021 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3232665)
You seem disgruntled :)


I’m fully gruntled. Thank you very much.


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CareerPivot 05-09-2021 06:37 PM

I actually enjoy his content. Seems like a friendly guy. Not sure if anyone has seen his latest video, but it brought up an interesting question. In the video, he spent a month being based out of MIA. However, he is ORD based. Is this something you can do at Envoy - bid flights out of another base?

dera 05-09-2021 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Scottman71 (Post 3232872)
I actually enjoy his content. Seems like a friendly guy. Not sure if anyone has seen his latest video, but it brought up an interesting question. In the video, he spent a month being based out of MIA. However, he is ORD based. Is this something you can do at Envoy - bid flights out of another base?

He was not based out of MIA, he just did a ton of through flying. It was a bit of an one-off thing when we transitioned our MIA base from 145 to 175.

He likely won't do another video like that in a while.

SoFloFlyer 05-10-2021 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3232878)
He was not based out of MIA, he just did a ton of through flying. It was a bit of an one-off thing when we transitioned our MIA base from 145 to 175.

He likely won't do another video like that in a while.

He actually mentions that too. Won’t do any Miami stuff unless he goes to the 175 or something changes.

MochaSwirl 05-10-2021 04:01 PM

you guys really are bothered by a dude that doesn’t pay your bills yet living in your head rent free.

I don’t care for the guy, I care about more important things like QOL, employee morale, work rules and you’re here behind a computer screen talking about a dude that does NOTHING for you but **** you off because he has social media content.


Mind ya business if it bothers you so much and focus on some more important issues with the airline that needs and should be addressed.

AV8R72 05-10-2021 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by MochaSwirl (Post 3233145)
you guys really are bothered by a dude that doesn’t pay your bills yet living in your head rent free.

I don’t care for the guy, I care about more important things like QOL, employee morale, work rules and you’re here behind a computer screen talking about a dude that does NOTHING for you but **** you off because he has social media content.


Mind ya business if it bothers you so much and focus on some more important issues with the airline that needs and should be addressed.

I think you missed half of what people are talking about. When the AIP bull was pulled he was making videos that helped the company recruit so they didn’t have to worry about QOL, morale, and work rules. It was us vs them and he was helping them

501kp 05-10-2021 05:45 PM

"MIND YA BUSINESS if it bothers you so much and focus on some more important issues with the airline that needs and should be addressed."

If you practiced what you preached you wouldn't even have an account on apc. Good luck tackling those more important issues though.

CLE to IAH 05-10-2021 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by MochaSwirl (Post 3233145)
you guys really are bothered by a dude that doesn’t pay your bills yet living in your head rent free.

I don’t care for the guy, I care about more important things like QOL, employee morale, work rules and you’re here behind a computer screen talking about a dude that does NOTHING for you but **** you off because he has social media content.


Mind ya business if it bothers you so much and focus on some more important issues with the airline that needs and should be addressed.

posts like this are just as obnoxious and are what’s largely keeping this thread from just dying.

Andy Dufresne 05-10-2021 06:37 PM

Just wanted to chime in after reading through some of the thread and say that this thread seems to be a microcosm of Envoy and their increasingly poor reputation in this industry. And SM isn’t the issue. It’s a bad look.

Enjoy.

LAXtoDEN 05-10-2021 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Andy Dufresne (Post 3233204)
Just wanted to chime in after reading through some of the thread and say that this thread seems to be a microcosm of Envoy and their increasingly poor reputation in this industry. And SM isn’t the issue. It’s a bad look.

Enjoy.

I don’t think SM is a problem one bit, but this crap doesn’t really fly at the other shops, just American. Both those Piedmont kids are clowns. It’s embarrassing to watch, they’re both full of themselves, they’re just pretending to be ambassadors, truly it’s just about the “look at me” attention. I think SM videos are more educational/professional.

Andy Dufresne 05-10-2021 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3233209)
I don’t think SM is a problem one bit, but this crap doesn’t really fly at the other shops, just American. Both those Piedmont kids are clowns. It’s embarrassing to watch, they’re both full of themselves, they’re just pretending to be ambassadors, truly it’s just about the “look at me” attention. I think SM videos are more educational/professional.

SM videos are high quality, and it’s evident from even his earliest videos that he’s truly passionate about what he does and is highly skilled. This thread is full of jealousy, with some sprinkles of homophobia for good measure, masquerading as anger over him being a “company man.” Really bizarre.

dera 05-10-2021 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by Andy Dufresne (Post 3233204)
Just wanted to chime in after reading through some of the thread and say that this thread seems to be a microcosm of Envoy and their increasingly poor reputation in this industry. And SM isn’t the issue. It’s a bad look.

Enjoy.

Yeah. The RPA LGA CA who whipped his hours after getting fired from the past 2 companies is the gold standard.
Or the Mesa guy who got fired from the past 2 companies with a felony conviction , awesome job.

Regionals suck. All of them.

MochaSwirl 05-10-2021 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by 501kp (Post 3233184)
"MIND YA BUSINESS if it bothers you so much and focus on some more important issues with the airline that needs and should be addressed."

If you practiced what you preached you wouldn't even have an account on apc. Good luck tackling those more important issues though.

I actually do practice what I preach partly by telling those so bothered by the man to go ahead and direct your energy towards your gripes with the company than him. And look at you, with an account on APC
😂😂😂

501kp 05-10-2021 08:44 PM

obviously you missed my point

Inclined plane 05-10-2021 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by MochaSwirl (Post 3233145)
you guys really are bothered by a dude that doesn’t pay your bills yet living in your head rent free.
.


And you are bothered by people that are bothered by other people.

And you aren’t wrong. Go ahead and vent your opinion. I just find it hypocritical to be doing the same thing you accuse others of. Diversity is a law of nature. Nothing is exactly the same, including people’s attitudes, and opinions. So think about it and realize that some people are literally SUPPOSED to take issue with the situation that SM and the company have created. It’s natural. We all own our own diverse opinions. What’s mine is mine and yours won’t take its place.


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highfarfast 05-11-2021 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by AV8R72 (Post 3233178)
I think you missed half of what people are talking about. When the AIP bull was pulled he was making videos that helped the company recruit so they didn’t have to worry about QOL, morale, and work rules. It was us vs them and he was helping them

This argument would hold more water if this thread wasn't started almost a year before the AIP fiasco.

henryjj 05-11-2021 07:38 AM

I’ll add that if you actually go look at his YouTube history (yes it’s easy to pull up)... He posted a video a few hours before your AIP fell through and was posted about here. Then he didn’t upload a video for 2 months until your AIP and contract were fixed. If he posts monthly, he actually waited until it was solved before uploading again.

If you’re gonna throw ‘facts’ around, do some research first. Lots of Kellyanne’s in here - “Alternative facts” are really fun!

LAXtoDEN 05-11-2021 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by henryjj (Post 3233346)
I’ll add that if you actually go look at his YouTube history (yes it’s easy to pull up)... He posted a video a few hours before your AIP fell through and was posted about here. Then he didn’t upload a video for 2 months until your AIP and contract were fixed. If he posts monthly, he actually waited until it was solved before uploading again.

If you’re gonna throw ‘facts’ around, do some research first. Lots of Kellyanne’s in here - “Alternative facts” are really fun!

Your post history is extremely suspicious lol. The last 20 posts have been defending SM in this thread. Your first post ever was 3 years ago, defending SM. In your first post you somehow had information on when SM interviewed, and how long he was waiting for ground school.

I have to ask, is that you SM?

CLE to IAH 05-11-2021 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3233348)
Your post history is extremely suspicious lol. The last 20 posts have been defending SM in this thread. Your first post ever was 3 years ago, defending SM. In your first post you somehow had information on when SM interviewed, and how long he was waiting for ground school.

I have to ask, is that you SM?

either that or SM has his very own superfan stalker

Andy Dufresne 05-11-2021 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3233350)
either that or SM has his very own superfan stalker

Not out of the realm of possibility that SM has some serious "fans" around here. There are many people (some who post here) who got their start in aviation because they stumbled upon one of SM's videos. He has made some great contributions to the industry and has done nothing to embarrass himself or Envoy. If all of the wannabe social media influencers would conduct themselves with the humble approach that SM uses, everyone would be better off.

Just my .02.

MochaSwirl 05-11-2021 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3233304)
This argument would hold more water if this thread wasn't started almost a year before the AIP fiasco.

Exactly my point. This wasn’t about him or the AIP.People just want something to complain about.

MochaSwirl 05-11-2021 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Inclined plane (Post 3233240)
And you are bothered by people that are bothered by other people.

And you aren’t wrong. Go ahead and vent your opinion. I just find it hypocritical to be doing the same thing you accuse others of. Diversity is a law of nature. Nothing is exactly the same, including people’s attitudes, and opinions. So think about it and realize that some people are literally SUPPOSED to take issue with the situation that SM and the company have created. It’s natural. We all own our own diverse opinions. What’s mine is mine and yours won’t take its place.


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Far from bothered my friend. And as one stated people have a had a problem with him since the whole AIP thing.

I could care less for the guy, I’m just saying people are focused on one person than a company as a whole as to whom if they choose to should have a gripe with.

There’s plenty of changes the company can do that would make for a better workplace environment that SM cannot.

This thread literally is just a place where you can vent your frustrations on a dude, which can do nothing for you to better your life....

Weird flex 🤷🏽‍♂️

dera 05-11-2021 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by henryjj (Post 3233346)
I’ll add that if you actually go look at his YouTube history (yes it’s easy to pull up)... He posted a video a few hours before your AIP fell through and was posted about here. Then he didn’t upload a video for 2 months until your AIP and contract were fixed. If he posts monthly, he actually waited until it was solved before uploading again.

If you’re gonna throw ‘facts’ around, do some research first. Lots of Kellyanne’s in here - “Alternative facts” are really fun!

AIP and contract were never fixed.
Saying that is "alternative facts".

tsimmns927 05-12-2021 02:17 PM

Don’t work for Envoy and not even a pilot. I’m just a mid 30s guy wanting to start flying lessons. I’ll say this, I’d much rather watch SM made vids over Drew or Garrett. At least SM gives some insight into the career field. While Drew and Garrett do also, their whole pages seem to be about promoting themselves and their paid promotions such as CREMO🤣. But then again, I don’t follow SM on IG, but I do find his YouTube vids informative.

Helij3t 05-12-2021 04:15 PM

Can we please worry about when hiring will resume. It appears every WO is hiring minus us. SM will always be the golden child for envoy and none of these comments will raise an eyebrow.
please let's move on:cool:

CptnDave 05-12-2021 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Helij3t (Post 3234100)
Can we please worry about when hiring will resume. It appears every WO is hiring minus us. SM will always be the golden child for envoy and none of these comments will raise an eyebrow.
please let's move on:cool:

Uh? We are hiring now.

ClappedOut145 05-12-2021 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by Helij3t (Post 3234100)
Can we please worry about when hiring will resume. It appears every WO is hiring minus us. SM will always be the golden child for envoy and none of these comments will raise an eyebrow.
please let's move on:cool:

You didn’t see? Fresh cadets coming to a 175 near you! You’ll hear about how Covid cost them a year of career time. How they interviewed with THJKooj and he told them how special they are. You might even get to hear about how they kept their D2 travel as well as health insurance while actual Envoy pilots were furloughed. Things are on the upswing!

Gooselives 05-12-2021 10:07 PM

5 bucks he never upgrades

and if he does will the vids stop?

Helij3t 05-13-2021 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3234229)
You didn’t see? Fresh cadets coming to a 175 near you! You’ll hear about how Covid cost them a year of career time. How they interviewed with THJKooj and he told them how special they are. You might even get to hear about how they kept their D2 travel as well as health insurance while actual Envoy pilots were furloughed. Things are on the upswing!

Hmmm SMH🤦🏼‍♂️ it's quite unfortunate and these cadets really don't know what there talking about. I pray they keep it shut and not complain of lost time/seniority to anyone they fly with. I'll humbly congratulate them for the promotion from being a cadet to a(n) FO~flap operator
but I kinda miss thkooj with his fairly tales.😁😁😁

NoValueAviator 05-13-2021 11:49 AM

I miss Thkooj too. These boards have always been over-moderated in my opinion, but then again maybe I'm only saying that because I got a (ban?, don't remember) warning for being catty towards dera back when he was a dyed-in-the-wool company shill.

The blue falcon/lands-by-B scenario is another big example.

Anyway, nothing to be done. Censorship is the defining word of our time, everywhere.

FltCtrlNoDsptch 05-13-2021 01:09 PM

Does every Envoy pilot advertise their Instagram handle on their roll aboard?

ClappedOut145 05-13-2021 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by FltCtrlNoDsptch (Post 3234500)
Does every Envoy pilot advertise their Instagram handle on their roll aboard?

It’s called a poon signal. You advertise your handle with the hopes that a Betty with some fresh nugs will want to engage in some grindage and slide into your DM’s with nudes. At least that's how it happened with me and some kids mom at B43.

BattMartle 05-14-2021 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3234508)
It’s called a poon signal. You advertise your handle with the hopes that a Betty with some fresh nugs will want to engage in some grindage and slide into your DM’s with nudes. At least that's how it happened with me and some kids mom at B43.

And this is how ThKooj came into the world!

ClappedOut145 05-14-2021 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by BattMartle (Post 3234997)
And this is how ThKooj came into the world!

Nope. He came to in existence due to three bottles of Boone’s Farm, the bathroom at a Ponderosa across from a dog track, and a defective condom from the machine on the wall that had been drying out since the Carter administration. He came out of the womb with a Poonvoy Cadet onesie waiting for him, and was carried home in a brand new Luggage Works Stealth bag.


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