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martyByrde 06-26-2019 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by HalyardJammer (Post 2843376)
Rumor is the union had a talk with him. Whatever they asked, he said he would comply with.

MD-11Loader, can you confirm this?

BigZ 06-26-2019 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by martyByrde (Post 2843540)
MD-11Loader, can you confirm this?

I'm not MD-11, but to me that sounds like nasty trolling aimed to solicit nasty comments

CafeConLeche 06-27-2019 05:10 PM

So my last post was removed because I cursed so I’ll try again.

I really hope they did talk to him. Swayne Martin is selling out his fellow pilots. Posting videos on how he picks up OT is absolutely cringe worthy.

Someone should give him a history lesson on how Envoy/ Eagle and AA management have shafted the Envoy former Eagle pilots in the past and are continuing to do so. I get he has a passion for aviation, as we all do, but he really needs to find another way to show it. His videos prop Envoy up and I can’t figure out if he realizes that management doesn’t care about him or his fellow pilots. How many times do pilots have to be screwed before guys like Swayne realizes management does not have our interests in mind.

I really wish he would make a video about Envoy and how they are the lowest payed wholly owned regional. But he probably thinks he’ll flow and never have to worry about being stuck a regional for 12+ years.
I really wish him all the best, but he really should open his eyes.

prex8390 06-28-2019 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by CafeConLeche (Post 2844296)
So my last post was removed because I cursed so I’ll try again.

I really hope they did talk to him. Swayne Martin is selling out his fellow pilots. Posting videos on how he picks up OT is absolutely cringe worthy.

Someone should give him a history lesson on how Envoy/ Eagle and AA management have shafted the Envoy former Eagle pilots in the past and are continuing to do so. I get he has a passion for aviation, as we all do, but he really needs to find another way to show it. His videos prop Envoy up and I can’t figure out if he realizes that management doesn’t care about him or his fellow pilots. How many times do pilots have to be screwed before guys like Swayne realizes management does not have our interests in mind.

I really wish he would make a video about Envoy and how they are the lowest payed wholly owned regional. But he probably thinks he’ll flow and never have to worry about being stuck a regional for 12+ years.
I really wish him all the best, but he really should open his eyes.

Swayne ain’t waiting around for a flow. I’d bet a beer he gets picked up by JetBlue, southwest or United as soon as gets 1000 121 time.

Bahamasflyer 06-28-2019 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2844463)
Swayne ain’t waiting around for a flow. I’d bet a beer he gets picked up by JetBlue, southwest or United as soon as gets 1000 121 time.

Not likely if he keeps teeing off so many pilots like he’s doing

wiz5422 06-28-2019 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer (Post 2844485)
Not likely if he keeps teeing off so many pilots like he’s doing

Agree. Aviation is a small community and the majors don't care about social media wannabes like the regionals do.

People talk and don't think that higher ups at some of the above mentioned carriers aren't aware of his name.

CADR 06-28-2019 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2844574)
Agree. Aviation is a small community and the majors don't care about social media wannabes like the regionals do.

People talk and don't think that higher ups at some of the above mentioned carriers aren't aware of his name.


lol seriously? Let’s be real, he’s going to be just fine. He is well connected and there are a lot of “higher ups” that are NGPA members that have his back and can’t wait to hire him. He will more than likely be at a major long before most people his age / career progression. Is that fair? No it’s not, and nor do I think he cares. To me it’s clear that he only cares about his career and his social status / image and not the pilot group as a whole. If he really was a team player then he would stop making videos that are made in partnership with envoy. He never should have done that in the first place. He sold himself out for his own self career advancement. Good for him I suppose?

To be clear, before people jump on me, I am not bashing and I am not hating. My point is that he is not your friend, he is not your buddy. He is out for himself and he is well connected and will not “pay his dues” like most others will. Also he will not understand anything about “paying dues” because to him his social media status is a free pass and somehow makes him more qualified and better than a pilot with more experience and education.

This is the world we live in unfortunately. Say hello and welcome to your future mainline Captains.

Oh and what’s really going to burst your bubbles is when your realize how not unique Swayne is. There are similar things to him all over at every regional

Cyio 06-28-2019 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by CADR (Post 2844828)
lol seriously? Let’s be real, he’s going to be just fine. He is well connected and there are a lot of “higher ups” that are NGPA members that have his back and can’t wait to hire him. He will more than likely be at a major long before most people his age / career progression. Is that fair? No it’s not, and nor do I think he cares. To me it’s clear that he only cares about his career and his social status / image and not the pilot group as a whole. If he really was a team player then he would stop making videos that are made in partnership with envoy. He never should have done that in the first place. He sold himself out for his own self career advancement. Good for him I suppose?

To be clear, before people jump on me, I am not bashing and I am not hating. My point is that he is not your friend, he is not your buddy. He is out for himself and he is well connected and will not “pay his dues” like most others will. Also he will not understand anything about “paying dues” because to him his social media status is a free pass and somehow makes him more qualified and better than a pilot with more experience and education.

This is the world we live in unfortunately. Say hello and welcome to your future mainline Captains.

Oh and what’s really going to burst your bubbles is when your realize how not unique Swayne is. There are similar things to him all over at every regional

This is the most depressing post. Sadly it’s true.

wiz5422 06-29-2019 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2844852)
This is the most depressing post. Sadly it’s true.

I disagree, if he was so connected like many think, than he would already be at s major. You don't need 1000 hrs 121 time, nor regional experience. Many already have been hired with less time and experience.

He might be connected with Envoy management, but that only gets you so much.

havick206 06-29-2019 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2845054)
I disagree, if he was so connected like many think, than he would already be at s major. You don't need 1000 hrs 121 time, nor regional experience. Many already have been hired with less time and experience.

He might be connected with Envoy management, but that only gets you so much.

Yeah there was a 21 year old hired at AA with nothing more than flying parachutists.


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