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WhipWhitaker 06-22-2019 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 2841542)
Serious question: how upset are you at pilots who have a blue lives matter/blue line American flag sticker on their suitcase? You’ll probably say you’re equally upset, but I bet that, deep down, you aren’t.

Oh it’s not deep down at all. In fact, it’s right on the surface. One represents the best and bravest this country has to offer, our law enforcement. The other represents a lifestyle choice better left at home where the rest of us non-attention seaking normal people leave ours.

OOfff 06-22-2019 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by WhipWhitaker (Post 2841580)
Oh it’s not deep down at all. In fact, it’s right on the surface. One represents the best and bravest this country has to offer, our law enforcement. The other represents a lifestyle choice better left at home where the rest of us non-attention seaking normal people leave ours.

So, you’re not really upset about “desecrating the flag,” but that people are being publicly proud.

As for the “best” in “best and bravest,” check out the plainview project

MD-11Loader 06-22-2019 04:19 PM

I think he took a decent stance, especially saying he pushed back against the company wanting more influence on his content.

WhipWhitaker 06-22-2019 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 2841585)
So, you’re not really upset about “desecrating the flag,” but that people are being publicly proud.

As for the “best” in “best and bravest,” check out the plainview project

We all get it, everyone gets it. You’re HR’s wet dream, congratulations. Virtue signaled, mission accomplished. I sure hope you never need a police officer, but if you do, they’ll be there regardless of what you think of them.

NoValueAviator 06-22-2019 05:43 PM

Sure got "Thin Blue Line American Flag Punisher Skull bumper sticker" in here all of a sudden. Yes, they're both desecrations of the American flag, and it's kind of sad, but I mean how many times have you seen old glory hugging some thot's genitals on the beach? This is a battle that austere patriots lost at some point in the distant past while the baby boomers were on the tiller.

OOfff 06-22-2019 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by WhipWhitaker (Post 2841629)
We all get it, everyone gets it. You’re HR’s wet dream, congratulations. Virtue signaled, mission accomplished. I sure hope you never need a police officer, but if you do, they’ll be there regardless of what you think of them.

I love it when people get all handwavey talking about virtue signaling as if the only reason someone might support pride or criticize police fetishization/worship is for the adoration of others.

henryjj 06-23-2019 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2841590)
I think he took a decent stance, especially saying he pushed back against the company wanting more influence on his content.

I agree.

I know that I’ve disagreed with a few of you here... But it’s really hard to argue with what he said in his post. And those of you who disagree with him should at least give him props for making it very clear to his followers that he supports the union and a better contract.

He’s been doing this for years, since he was 15 or something. These videos seem to me like a very factual continuation of his career. He adds very little “spin” in any video... he even called his own videos boring in the post. Whether or not you like him, or the idea of being a public figure and a pilot, it doesn’t seem like he’s as “against” the interests of the pilot group as some try to make it seem. Can we just give it is a rest on this thread now?

rld1k 06-23-2019 08:11 AM

What did you expect him to say lol, f the union? He's still management's boy going to recruiting events and making videos during negotiations. Can't even wait until negotiations are over to post, really? He can do whatever he wants. He should just realize that he's ****ing off a large number of his co-workers.

henryjj 06-23-2019 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 2841869)
What did you expect him to say lol, f the union? He's still management's boy going to recruiting events and making videos during negotiations. Can't even wait until negotiations are over to post, really? He can do whatever he wants. He should just realize that he's ****ing off a large number of his co-workers.

Well, I for one didn’t expect him to openly push back on the company asking the videos to be more focused on Envoy. Plus, if he’d waited for negotiations to be over I’m assuming he’d never have a video in the first place. Union negotiations are always happening, right? Plus, this particular video was uploaded before the union announcement you guys are talking about.

Bruno82 06-23-2019 09:06 AM

Swayne is a great pilot, great to work with and an asset to the crew. I don’t see how his videos are biased towards the company. We shan’t focus frustrations on him.


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