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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3231600)

Thank you. I am sure that many of the fools who run their mouths here probably have all sorts of stupid crap documented that they did in their fraternities, the military or with the slumpbuster that they drug out of a bar in BUF. The only thing that matters is if you can spend four days with someone and not want to kill them and if they are a safe/competent pilot. Other than that, I do not give a crap about what the person next to me does or did in the past with their personal life.

Not in the military, not since about the mid-80's. They'll run you right out for the slightest impropriety these days.

Well SM is a cool kid and his videos are quite educative to prospective cadets. I'll choose him over the other one selling ED pills with a paid to view content.

Ah, Gen Z, what a great generation. Can’t live a day without getting some type of justification from social media. Put down the bull**** and live your life. No one cares about your YouTube series.

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Originally Posted by Helij3t (Post 3231837)

Well SM is a cool kid and his videos are quite educative to prospective cadets. I'll choose him over the other one selling ED pills with a paid to view content.

I can actually agree with that.

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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3231183)

I can see why it comes across as recruitment videos, but at its core, it’s not. It’s the same style of videos is consistent with his 135 days. It’s always been about the lifestyle, do’s and don’t’s, etc...

Why Envoy allows it, idk, but it’s not any different than before Envoy. It’s just done with high quality and awesome editing. He does mention the bad parts of the industry, but always keeps it positive. Because let’s face it, the Lord knows Envoy is better than instructing.

Envoy allows it because it IS FREE ADVERTISING. Yes, he produces a good product and Envoy approves the videos he puts out because they have Envoy on them. And not to beat a dead horse but MOST people have a gripe about the fact that Envoy has a VERY restrictive social media policy to the point that a lot of people won’t even post any pictures that could possibly tie them to the company for fear that something unrelated will get them in hot water and here is a kid that has a blessing to take all these videos. And then there is the issue of him putting out those videos, that are undeniably Envoy advertising, while the company was busting the pilot’s b@!!s about pay issues.

There were other individuals at Envoy who were warned about their videos. They weren’t negative, but they definitely didn’t have the polish and positive spin that SM’s videos had.

The other guys, while at WOs, were not at Envoy. Some that I saw, while did have some airline info, didn’t have the polish and were more about the individual. Would most people consider SM’s better, probably. Certainly better produced, but aimed at a different group. Both are financially benefiting from them though.

But whether or not you like the kid, or what he was doing with the videos, his personal life choices should be his personal life. This isn’t the place for those comments.

Just wait till he upgrades….sir the engine is on fire what shall we do?….duh get the youtube thumbnail shot ask the flight attendant to try and get a good one!

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Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3232265)

Just wait till he upgrades….sir the engine is on fire what shall we do?….duh get the youtube thumbnail shot ask the flight attendant to try and get a good one!

Hey, PR photo shots haven’t ever gone wrong...have they?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fCORwU...ature=youtu.be

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Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3231928)

Then the complaint is with the company, not with Swayne.

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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3232348)

Then the complaint is with the company, not with Swayne.

Yes, there is an issue with the company. But since you haven’t had the opportunity to be in a work group that is at a company with a contentious management group, you don’t understand how having an employee who does something that management allows and benefits only themselves and HARMS the REST of the workgroup feels.

And that’s is an issue with the INDIVIDUAL. If you want to do something to better yourself, go for it. UNLESS it is directly hurting those around you, which his actions were.