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Originally Posted by Cyio
(Post 3231099)
The anger towards him has nothing to do with what he did in his younger days, what he does in his off time or what sexual preferences he has.
This all started when he was actively making recruitment videos for Envoy when the company had just broke an LOA agreement we had in place. It was seen as helping the company while the company was not abiding by an agreement we had in place. Let’s stop dragging this into territory that it doesn’t belong. Now I don't like a scab or "company man", just as much as the next guy but everyone is entitled to do as they please. You know as well as I do that some guys and girls will position themselves to climb the ladder through becoming management etc. If that's the case with Swayne then so be it. I PERSONALLY don't think he should be bagged and have his name dragged through the mud on a public forum because some on here don't like him. I'm sure despite his different views on how to conduct himself in a heavily unionised industry, that he is a nice guy. If people have a problem with him say it to his face and deal with it person to person. People need to stop hiding behind a keyboard. Just my 2 cents. |
Originally Posted by VidNan
(Post 3231117)
Fair enough. I agree with most of your post but, look back a few posts and someone literally mentioned the fact he was on grindr in his college days. That is not at all relevant to anything.
Now I don't like a scab or "company man", just as much as the next guy but everyone is entitled to do as they please. You know as well as I do that some guys and girls will position themselves to climb the ladder through becoming management etc. If that's the case with Swayne then so be it. I PERSONALLY don't think he should be bagged and have his name dragged through the mud on a public forum because some on here don't like him. I'm sure despite his different views on how to conduct himself in a heavily unionised industry, that he is a nice guy. If people have a problem with him say it to his face and deal with it person to person. People need to stop hiding behind a keyboard. Just my 2 cents. I am no longer with Envoy and wish you all the best, including him, however I didn’t want this to devolve into something it wasn’t. 99.99999% of the pilot groups could care less about his personal life, this was about the specific situation I referenced above. Take care. |
Originally Posted by Cyio
(Post 3231099)
The anger towards him has nothing to do with what he did in his younger days, what he does in his off time or what sexual preferences he has.
This all started when he was actively making recruitment videos for Envoy when the company had just broke an LOA agreement we had in place. It was seen as helping the company while the company was not abiding by an agreement we had in place. Let’s stop dragging this into territory that it doesn’t belong. Why Envoy allows it, idk, but it’s not any different than before Envoy. It’s just done with high quality and awesome editing. He does mention the bad parts of the industry, but always keeps it positive. Because let’s face it, the Lord knows Envoy is better than instructing. |
Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
(Post 3231183)
I can see why it comes across as recruitment videos, but at its core, it’s not. It’s the same style of videos is consistent with his 135 days. It’s always been about the lifestyle, do’s and don’t’s, etc...
Why Envoy allows it, idk, but it’s not any different than before Envoy. It’s just done with high quality and awesome editing. He does mention the bad parts of the industry, but always keeps it positive. Because let’s face it, the Lord knows Envoy is better than instructing. |
I still contend he’s not the same as some celebrity as this forum treats him. He’s one of us. You can look him up, find him, and talk to him personally. Alternatively, you can comment in the content section of his videos. Hiding behind a screen name here and launching personal attacks is chicken ****.
I’ve never met him so I’m not defending a ‘friend’. I’m just commenting on how this thread sounds to me as I read it. |
MOD INPUT: I think most of you get it now, but let's knock off all discussion of his personal private life, that's only a legit topic if somebody gets arrested for it.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3231570)
MOD INPUT: I think most of you get it now, but let's knock off all discussion of his personal private life, that's only a legit topic if somebody gets arrested for it.
Thanks |
Originally Posted by coodrough568
(Post 3231463)
I mean it’s not like anyone here could’ve predicted that him getting better treatment than other co workers, allowed to film and fly company planes and make money off of it while no one else can would put him in a bad spotlight from the other pilots. Right? No one could’ve called that....
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
(Post 3231601)
wow, jealous much?
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