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Inclined plane 05-10-2021 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by MochaSwirl (Post 3233145)
you guys really are bothered by a dude that doesn’t pay your bills yet living in your head rent free.
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And you are bothered by people that are bothered by other people.

And you aren’t wrong. Go ahead and vent your opinion. I just find it hypocritical to be doing the same thing you accuse others of. Diversity is a law of nature. Nothing is exactly the same, including people’s attitudes, and opinions. So think about it and realize that some people are literally SUPPOSED to take issue with the situation that SM and the company have created. It’s natural. We all own our own diverse opinions. What’s mine is mine and yours won’t take its place.


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highfarfast 05-11-2021 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by AV8R72 (Post 3233178)
I think you missed half of what people are talking about. When the AIP bull was pulled he was making videos that helped the company recruit so they didn’t have to worry about QOL, morale, and work rules. It was us vs them and he was helping them

This argument would hold more water if this thread wasn't started almost a year before the AIP fiasco.

henryjj 05-11-2021 07:38 AM

I’ll add that if you actually go look at his YouTube history (yes it’s easy to pull up)... He posted a video a few hours before your AIP fell through and was posted about here. Then he didn’t upload a video for 2 months until your AIP and contract were fixed. If he posts monthly, he actually waited until it was solved before uploading again.

If you’re gonna throw ‘facts’ around, do some research first. Lots of Kellyanne’s in here - “Alternative facts” are really fun!

LAXtoDEN 05-11-2021 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by henryjj (Post 3233346)
I’ll add that if you actually go look at his YouTube history (yes it’s easy to pull up)... He posted a video a few hours before your AIP fell through and was posted about here. Then he didn’t upload a video for 2 months until your AIP and contract were fixed. If he posts monthly, he actually waited until it was solved before uploading again.

If you’re gonna throw ‘facts’ around, do some research first. Lots of Kellyanne’s in here - “Alternative facts” are really fun!

Your post history is extremely suspicious lol. The last 20 posts have been defending SM in this thread. Your first post ever was 3 years ago, defending SM. In your first post you somehow had information on when SM interviewed, and how long he was waiting for ground school.

I have to ask, is that you SM?

CLE to IAH 05-11-2021 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3233348)
Your post history is extremely suspicious lol. The last 20 posts have been defending SM in this thread. Your first post ever was 3 years ago, defending SM. In your first post you somehow had information on when SM interviewed, and how long he was waiting for ground school.

I have to ask, is that you SM?

either that or SM has his very own superfan stalker

Andy Dufresne 05-11-2021 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3233350)
either that or SM has his very own superfan stalker

Not out of the realm of possibility that SM has some serious "fans" around here. There are many people (some who post here) who got their start in aviation because they stumbled upon one of SM's videos. He has made some great contributions to the industry and has done nothing to embarrass himself or Envoy. If all of the wannabe social media influencers would conduct themselves with the humble approach that SM uses, everyone would be better off.

Just my .02.

MochaSwirl 05-11-2021 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3233304)
This argument would hold more water if this thread wasn't started almost a year before the AIP fiasco.

Exactly my point. This wasn’t about him or the AIP.People just want something to complain about.

MochaSwirl 05-11-2021 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Inclined plane (Post 3233240)
And you are bothered by people that are bothered by other people.

And you aren’t wrong. Go ahead and vent your opinion. I just find it hypocritical to be doing the same thing you accuse others of. Diversity is a law of nature. Nothing is exactly the same, including people’s attitudes, and opinions. So think about it and realize that some people are literally SUPPOSED to take issue with the situation that SM and the company have created. It’s natural. We all own our own diverse opinions. What’s mine is mine and yours won’t take its place.


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Far from bothered my friend. And as one stated people have a had a problem with him since the whole AIP thing.

I could care less for the guy, I’m just saying people are focused on one person than a company as a whole as to whom if they choose to should have a gripe with.

There’s plenty of changes the company can do that would make for a better workplace environment that SM cannot.

This thread literally is just a place where you can vent your frustrations on a dude, which can do nothing for you to better your life....

Weird flex 🤷🏽‍♂️

dera 05-11-2021 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by henryjj (Post 3233346)
I’ll add that if you actually go look at his YouTube history (yes it’s easy to pull up)... He posted a video a few hours before your AIP fell through and was posted about here. Then he didn’t upload a video for 2 months until your AIP and contract were fixed. If he posts monthly, he actually waited until it was solved before uploading again.

If you’re gonna throw ‘facts’ around, do some research first. Lots of Kellyanne’s in here - “Alternative facts” are really fun!

AIP and contract were never fixed.
Saying that is "alternative facts".

tsimmns927 05-12-2021 02:17 PM

Don’t work for Envoy and not even a pilot. I’m just a mid 30s guy wanting to start flying lessons. I’ll say this, I’d much rather watch SM made vids over Drew or Garrett. At least SM gives some insight into the career field. While Drew and Garrett do also, their whole pages seem to be about promoting themselves and their paid promotions such as CREMO🤣. But then again, I don’t follow SM on IG, but I do find his YouTube vids informative.


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