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Cyio 11-19-2020 03:44 AM


Originally Posted by Finessed (Post 3160719)
Honestly the kid makes good videos, I definitely vibe with them. That being said, it’s undeniable he seeks attention which is cringeworthy but I’ve seen substantially worse. What makes me personally have no respect for him? That would be right around the time I hear him slip in an advertisement on “logten pro” or whatever. I’d say filming an approved video for Envoy and then using that video to profit off advertising is the same as accepting a tip from a passenger.

I really have nothing against the guy personally and to be honest, have only seen his videos because people made such a huge fuss over it. What turned me against it was the videos being made during negotiations when things were really clicking. That should not have happened and if he is in fact advertising for things inside of a company-approved video, that is pretty slimy as well and should come to a quick halt.

I know the argument is that anyone could get "approval" to make videos like these, but in reality that is a lie. This guy fit the perfect image they wanted and allowed it. They certainly wouldn't approve me to make videos so it sets up this uneven playing field where some get to make extra money and others are shut out, not by work but by the companies policies. That seems wrong. If he wants to continue making videos like these while the rest of us cant or are not allowed to, perhaps he should jump out of the union and become a management pilot.

Helij3t 11-19-2020 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3160739)
I really have nothing against the guy personally and to be honest, have only seen his videos because people made such a huge fuss over it. What turned me against it was the videos being made during negotiations when things were really clicking. That should not have happened and if he is in fact advertising for things inside of a company-approved video, that is pretty slimy as well and should come to a quick halt.

I know the argument is that anyone could get "approval" to make videos like these, but in reality that is a lie. This guy fit the perfect image they wanted and allowed it. They certainly wouldn't approve me to make videos so it sets up this uneven playing field where some get to make extra money and others are shut out, not by work but by the companies policies. That seems wrong. If he wants to continue making videos like these while the rest of us cant or are not allowed to, perhaps he should jump out of the union and become a management pilot.


You probably have a beer belly and the voy won't buy that on promotional videos.
LMAO:D

pitchattitude 11-19-2020 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Finessed (Post 3160719)
Honestly the kid makes good videos, I definitely vibe with them. That being said, it’s undeniable he seeks attention which is cringeworthy but I’ve seen substantially worse. What makes me personally have no respect for him? That would be right around the time I hear him slip in an advertisement on “logten pro” or whatever. I’d say filming an approved video for Envoy and then using that video to profit off advertising is the same as accepting a tip from a passenger.


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3160739)
I really have nothing against the guy personally and to be honest, have only seen his videos because people made such a huge fuss over it. What turned me against it was the videos being made during negotiations when things were really clicking. That should not have happened and if he is in fact advertising for things inside of a company-approved video, that is pretty slimy as well and should come to a quick halt.

I know the argument is that anyone could get "approval" to make videos like these, but in reality that is a lie. This guy fit the perfect image they wanted and allowed it. They certainly wouldn't approve me to make videos so it sets up this uneven playing field where some get to make extra money and others are shut out, not by work but by the companies policies. That seems wrong. If he wants to continue making videos like these while the rest of us cant or are not allowed to, perhaps he should jump out of the union and become a management pilot.

Cyio’s point is spot on with my view. I don’t know HOW MUCH he is making from his YouTube Chanel and associated website, but with or without any “product placement” within his videos, he IS making money from them. It may be mutual, the Voy maybe using him and he using the company, but this IS something not afforded to others.

Air Stang 7 11-21-2020 07:51 PM

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Gooselives 11-22-2020 06:00 AM

He makes more then a captain

Seneca Pilot 11-22-2020 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3161965)
He makes more then a captain


I have a friend who live streams on Youtube. He has less than ten percent of the subscribers that Swayne has and far less daily views and he makes about 1200.00 per month. Swayne is probably doing pretty well. Good for him.

rickair7777 11-22-2020 06:42 AM

Hope all these youtubers are saving their loot. The fad may not last forever, and when they're no longer quite so young, fresh, and hip, they might get replaced by newer models. It is after all youth-oriented entertainment.

Seneca Pilot 11-22-2020 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3161985)
Hope all these youtubers are saving their loot. The fad may not last forever, and when they're no longer quite so young, fresh, and hip, they might get replaced by newer models. It is after all youth-oriented entertainment.


Depends on your market. There are plenty of successful Youtubers in their forties and fifties. Many Youtube providers are teaching a skill or reporting news or similar and don't have to be young or attractive to give good value to the viewer.

I think Tic Tok is the home of the young and stupid these days. Youtube is so 2010.

Cyio 11-22-2020 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot (Post 3161987)
Depends on your market. There are plenty of successful Youtubers in their forties and fifties. Many Youtube providers are teaching a skill or reporting news or similar and don't have to be young or attractive to give good value to the viewer.

I think Tic Tok is the home of the young and stupid these days. Youtube is so 2010.

I would agree. In fact, most of the YouTube personalities I watch are my age or older, granted this will depend largely on what your interests are.

Cyio 11-22-2020 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3161985)
Hope all these youtubers are saving their loot. The fad may not last forever, and when they're no longer quite so young, fresh, and hip, they might get replaced by newer models. It is after all youth-oriented entertainment.

I just don't think this is accurate. Not only is YouTube certainly not solely youth-oriented, but it also isn't a fad. I am firmly middle-aged and I spend the majority of my time on YouTube when I am at a computer. So much useful information for my various hobbies.


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