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I think we certainly had more leverage than we do now. But honestly, the biggest concession I’ve seen here in terms of long term damage to our negotiating position has to be letting cadets pick first in class. A tiny incremental pay raise is almost meaningless in comparison. “Guaranteed” 175 slots bring the boys (21 y/o cadets) to the yard, always will.

Envoys strategy is working. I’ve talked to dozens of those guys who are just fine waiting on an 8-10 year flow. They’ll have a 35 year career at AA.

I’m a newbie, but my goal is to beat the flow by half, to any legacy. Almost every CA I’ve flow with has competitive time, but is content waiting another 1-2 years on the flow.

As much as I don’t understand waiting it out (unless you’re a 2016 hire), the marketing strategy works.

Varsity

11-06-2019 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AV8R72 (Post 2918611)

Jokes on them, we won’t even have 2 pilots in the cockpit in 35 years.

CaseTractor

11-18-2019 07:20 AM

So what are the drops today?

Crimson37Roger

11-18-2019 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by casetractor (Post 2925729)

so what are the drops today?

22 ofl
8 nfe

BIueSideUp

11-18-2019 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Crimson37Roger (Post 2925736)

22 ofl
8 nfe

They come from near and afar to fly shiny jet for the envoy

pitchattitude

11-18-2019 12:50 PM

Some may win in the short term, but everyone gets Envoyed in the end because the house always wins.

AV8R72

11-19-2019 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BIueSideUp (Post 2925840)

They come from near and afar to fly shiny jet for the envoy

That’s the first 30 plus class we’ve had since July.

Cujo665

11-21-2019 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2925897)

Some may win in the short term, but everyone gets Envoyed in the end because the house always wins.

Yep, very true

cr700

11-21-2019 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 2927688)

Yep, very true

And.....it's back. I'm surprised you didn't throw out your sales pitch for that crap ACMI you are working for. Envoy is just fine FYI. Notice the new hire class of 30. That's 30 more AA pilots. I know you are jealous of these guys but as of late I'm detecting hints of rage...

pitchattitude

11-21-2019 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cr700 (Post 2927916)

30 more potential AA pilots in 7-9 years.

Dude, you are a shill. Go back to what ever desk you fly.

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