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Folove 10-26-2018 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by CaptJackSparrow (Post 2698231)
Those guys got $45K and the rest of the pilot group got nothing. Many of us didn’t even get the $20K as an FO. Trust me they didn’t get screwed out of anything.



It’s all timing. You may not get money but you get to hold a line,good QOL and build time to get out and go somewhere else.

havick206 10-26-2018 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by Folove (Post 2698281)
It’s all timing. You may not get money but you get to hold a line,good QOL and build time to get out and go somewhere else.

No one is holding a gun to anyone’s head to come here.

Amansworld 10-27-2018 05:35 AM

Worst schedule and airline ever. Period.

Captain Kirk 10-27-2018 06:02 AM

I respectfully disagree.
I live in base, have a line and schedules have been fine.
Having said that, if the NY lines decrease as per Ric’s email well...

flysooner9 10-27-2018 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Amansworld (Post 2698527)
Worst schedule and airline ever. Period.

Says everyone at every regional

Excargodog 10-27-2018 11:02 AM

So how much actual flying would a newbie DEC on reserve actually get? And what are the junior bases?

Bruno82 10-27-2018 01:07 PM

Envoy Direct Entry Captain
 

Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2698740)
So how much actual flying would a newbie DEC on reserve actually get? And what are the junior bases?



I’m on my first full month of reserve. I’ve flown 33 hours in October and have 3 more days of reserve left.


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Skip0927 10-27-2018 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2698740)
So how much actual flying would a newbie DEC on reserve actually get? And what are the junior bases?

Ive flown 14 hours all of october. But I’ve been called to sit standby a few times as well. What’s standby you ask? It is this amazing thing where you sit in our asbetos riddled crew room in LGA for 8 hrs a day awaiting schedulings call to go do a YUL turn. There is virtually no limit to how often you can be assigned this, there is no pay override and standby is assigned in reverse seniority order everyday. You WILL be assigned this often! There are 8 standby shifts per day in NYC.

Unless you are coming here to check the 121 PIC box and move on in 6 months, there is nothing in the works that says this is a good place to be going forward for the long term.

Plan to sit more than fly....

DilsonWic 10-28-2018 09:12 AM

If DECs didn’t learn their lesson about seniority in the last 1,000 121 hours, well.....

You won’t get my sympathy or anyone else’s.

Bruno82 10-28-2018 09:54 AM

As a DEC, I’ll post my outlook on it.

In summary, if I had it to do over, I would do the same thing.

It’s a pretty good opportunity. The bonus is good and it’s a good opportunity to get Part 121 Turbine PIC. If you live in base or can move there it’s even better. I talked with my wife about moving to base, but we have a great support system where we live while I’m away, so we decided to deal with commuting on reserve.

It is tough, though. Commuting on reserve is not a lot of fun. The minimum days off for reserve is 11 and if you commute, you can plan to commute to base in on three or four of those days.

At the moment I’m not getting as many hours as I thought I would. I have 33 for October and only a couple of more days left this month. I’m stuck at the spot in the list where I’m too junior to get trips I proffer for and too senior to get assigned trips. Hopefully flying will pick up.

I can’t see being on reserve any less than the next year and a half or so. We’re just not hiring that many DECs and many of the ones we’ve hired are going to the CRJ.

My family and I knew it would be tough for a while going into this, but it doesn’t make it any less tough. Just know what you’re getting into. You’ll be perpetually junior until the FOs hired below you are eligible for
upgrade.

Ive only been here for a few months, but I feel like I’ve been treated fairly so far. In training I saw someone have trouble in each phase but they worked and made it to the line. Scheduling has also been pretty fair and has tried to help me to the best of their ability. Crews I’ve flown with so far have been great to work with as well.

In short, if you choose to come here, just realize the schedule is tough, especially if you are a commuter. It’s a good opportunity, just have a frank discussion with your family and self to see what is right for you.


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