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DreadWing 10-25-2018 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by lear60man (Post 2697819)
Yes. Just contemplating a different type of flying, set schedule...set time off.

That's the biggest advantage I found working here. I never knew what a "(real) schedule" was in my former life.

The flying is EXCEPTIONALLY straight-forward and easy. No filing, no receipts to keep up with, no arranging for after-hours FBO call-outs, no rental cars, no veiled threats about carrying write-ups, NO BULL****.

Folove 10-25-2018 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by lear60man (Post 2697819)
Yes. Just contemplating a different type of flying, set schedule...set time off.



Be careful man you may already know but it’s going to be a long, long time before you will have a line here and get a good QOL. However, that can change if reserve rules improve and we get some sort of long call for DECs. My guess is that if it ever happens it will go to the senior guys on rsv. Again screwing over the DECs.

Right now it’s endless rsv and minimum days off a month is 11. Which turns into 8-9 if you commute. Some days I wanna quit others I’m happy I’m employeed. This can all change if you live in base.

Good luck

dera 10-25-2018 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by Folove (Post 2697876)
Be careful man you may already know but it’s going to be a long, long time before you will have a line here and get a good QOL. However, that can change if reserve rules improve and we get some sort of long call for DECs. My guess is that if it ever happens it will go to the senior guys on rsv. Again screwing over the DECs.

Right now it’s endless rsv and minimum days off a month is 11. Which turns into 8-9 if you commute. Some days I wanna quit others I’m happy I’m employeed. This can all change if you live in base.

Good luck

Endless? Oh come on, it's about a year?

Folove 10-25-2018 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2697879)
Endless? Oh come on, it's about a year?



There’s DECs who have been here a year and still on rsv with no end in sight. In my opinion it will be 2-3 years of rsv. Anything less than that and you’re not thinking straight

Bruno82 10-25-2018 07:55 PM

I don’t see any way a DEC hired now on the 145 will get off of rsv in under a year and a half.


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dera 10-25-2018 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by Bruno82 (Post 2697884)
I don’t see any way a DEC hired now on the 145 will get off of rsv in under a year and a half.


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Yep. No big deal.
I'm not a DEC candidate, but you guys need to have some perspective. A year and a half is nothing. Nada. Zilch.

lear60man 10-25-2018 08:20 PM

Thanks guys, lots of good insider info to contemplate. DEC's sound like they get the brunt of the trips.....away from a warm domicile.

Cyio 10-26-2018 03:11 AM


Originally Posted by lear60man (Post 2697900)
Thanks guys, lots of good insider info to contemplate. DEC's sound like they get the brunt of the trips.....away from a warm domicile.

DECs have pros and cons. Pro, they are sitting left seat with a flow now and have a large sign on bonus. Cons, they are sitting left seat with FO's that are more senior to them, perhaps perpetually knocking them down the list.

You have to keep in mind that every FO hired before you got here is a potential issue. If you are OK with that and the money makes it worth it, do it. If you live in base you are golden.

As for time on rev, I would put it 1.5-2 years, as that is the average upgrade time for FO's that were hired in the late 2016 early 2017 hiring spree. Once they are out of your way you can start to get off RSV, however you may not want to if you live in base.

SilentLurker 10-26-2018 03:37 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2697886)
Yep. No big deal.

I'm not a DEC candidate, but you guys need to have some perspective. A year and a half is nothing. Nada. Zilch.



Incentives such as unlimited commuter hotels in NYC helped staffing levels tremendously. But If your a DEC and on live in base Rsv for 1.5yrs can be a walk in the park,. Now we all know majority of crews choose to commute to certain bases due to high costs of living, rent/housing prices, and taxes. So Rsv life is something heavy to many because of our industry lagging rules.

CaptJackSparrow 10-26-2018 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Folove (Post 2697876)
Again screwing over the DECs.

Those guys got $45K and the rest of the pilot group got nothing. Many of us didn’t even get the $20K as an FO. Trust me they didn’t get screwed out of anything.


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