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SilentLurker 10-08-2018 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by SilentLurker (Post 2688304)
This is more common today, than back in the days. I will admit they do not work with you in situations like that these days.


Edit for correction:

They do work with you in situations like that.

Pedro4President 10-09-2018 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by Amansworld (Post 2684975)
I have been in the 121 world since late 90’s. I was recently told to call the chief pilot when I called in sick for the death of a family member. Btw, only time I ever called in sick. CP was a douche and basically made me choose between job and family. No choice to be made. It is family every time.

You don't call in sick for a funeral. You call the CPO and request the time off there. If it starts to go south over the phone simply say I'm not going to be there on these days you can code it how you like.

lear60man 10-24-2018 12:27 PM

Confused about the DEC hour requirement. If a guy has say 4,000 Jet PIC 135 does that count or does the time have to be 121?

Asking for a friend hahah

DreadWing 10-24-2018 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by lear60man (Post 2697046)
Confused about the DEC hour requirement. If a guy has say 4,000 Jet PIC 135 does that count or does the time have to be 121?

Asking for a friend hahah

They counted my several thousand hours jet PIC for displacement purposes.

lear60man 10-24-2018 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by DreadWing (Post 2697056)
They counted my several thousand hours jet PIC for displacement purposes.

Sorry.....Im a corporate guy. What does 'Displacement Purposes' mean. Im trying to learn the lingo.

Thanks in advance.

DreadWing 10-24-2018 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by lear60man (Post 2697102)
Sorry.....Im a corporate guy. What does 'Displacement Purposes' mean. Im trying to learn the lingo.

Thanks in advance.

No worries. The airline began to involuntarily upgrade F/Os ("displaced") when captain staffing levels became critical some time ago. This coincides with the moment they started allowing the hiring of DECs.

When it looked like I could hold my preferred base as captain (plus it was time to start making cash), I "proffered to displace" to captain, which is a formal request that my seniority allow me to be displaced to captain before those junior to me, since these displacements occur starting from the bottom of the seniority list and work their way up.

I did this, rather than voluntarily bidding for captain, because I could take advantage of the benefits that come with displacement (i.e. no 24-month "training freeze" commitment to the equipment I was displaced into).

I had a fifteen years of 135/91 corporate in my former life.

Venkman 10-24-2018 03:36 PM

Wondering if anyone can shed some light on this:

There's a section on their DEC recruitment page that says you can be eligible for "up to" $45k bonus with 500 PIC 135 time or 500 121. I am considering pursuing a start in 121, and while I've got <1000 135 time, I do have >500 135 PIC time. It sounds like I would of course go in as an FO and upgrade when I got the rest of the time to make up 1000 hours, correct? Yet take the $45k DEC bonus. Any other catches to be aware of here? (Aside from all the commuting and LGA CA displacement. I understand that.)

Oregon Trail 10-24-2018 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by lear60man (Post 2697102)
Sorry.....Im a corporate guy. What does 'Displacement Purposes' mean. Im trying to learn the lingo.

Thanks in advance.

Yes 135 PIC time counts. PIC only though not SIC

Oregon Trail 10-24-2018 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Venkman (Post 2697152)
Wondering if anyone can shed some light on this:

There's a section on their DEC recruitment page that says you can be eligible for "up to" $45k bonus with 500 PIC 135 time or 500 121. I am considering pursuing a start in 121, and while I've got <1000 135 time, I do have >500 135 PIC time. It sounds like I would of course go in as an FO and upgrade when I got the rest of the time to make up 1000 hours, correct? Yet take the $45k DEC bonus. Any other catches to be aware of here? (Aside from all the commuting and LGA CA displacement. I understand that.)

2 year commitment pro rated, not sure how to get up to $45k but I was offered $37k

Venkman 10-24-2018 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Oregon Trail (Post 2697196)
2 year commitment pro rated, not sure how to get up to $45k but I was offered $37k

Cool thank you. Do they offer this or you have to bring it up? I assume I would apply via airlineapps and not their DEC portal, yes?


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