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Cyio 03-07-2019 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by cr700 (Post 2776767)
Never thought that I would find myself in agreement with you but on one point here I do. Envoy indeed is growing like gangbusters and will continue to do so as we reclaim flying. This means even more upgrades and increasing flow. The flow is operating on all cylinders currently and Envoy is THE best option for new aviators today. New hires will upgrade as soon as they have their required time and then flow to AA just a few short years after.

Define “few”. A new hire will not flow in a few years by the standard assumption that “few” means a small number. I don’t see 8+ years being a few, but I suppose we all have an opinion.

Inclined plane 03-07-2019 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by bh539 (Post 2776712)
Why use many word when few word do trick



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Pedro4President 03-07-2019 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by cr700 (Post 2776767)
Never thought that I would find myself in agreement with you but on one point here I do. Envoy indeed is growing like gangbusters and will continue to do so as we reclaim flying. This means even more upgrades and increasing flow. The flow is operating on all cylinders currently and Envoy is THE best option for new aviators today. New hires will upgrade as soon as they have their required time and then flow to AA just a few short years after.

We lack in EVERYTHING but flow. Pay, QOL, schedules, and average annual flight time is far behind industry standards.

Envoy is not growing like "gangbusters". That happened in late 2016-early 2018. We may grow 5-10% over the next year and we could spike even more if we get LA back but I don't think AA is going to let us get much bigger.

Varsity 03-07-2019 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2776934)
We lack in EVERYTHING but flow. Pay, QOL, schedules, and average annual flight time is far behind industry standards.

Envoy is not growing like "gangbusters". That happened in late 2016-early 2018. We may grow 5-10% over the next year and we could spike even more if we get LA back but I don't think AA is going to let us get much bigger.

RI has said Envoy is a 200 airplane airline. We're about there right now..

Jumpseatcrawler 03-07-2019 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by bh539 (Post 2776712)
Why use many word when few word do trick

When me flow to American, They See... They See.

MD-11Loader 03-07-2019 10:35 AM

Sounds like AA is revising their hiring and training in order to ensure enough staffing for the peak season. This could result in some classes being adjusted.

bigtime209 03-07-2019 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2776961)
Sounds like AA is revising their hiring and training in order to ensure enough staffing for the peak season. This could result in some classes being adjusted.

Latest hiring projections for 2019 are 750. Down from 910 prior to the start of the year. S80 displacements are a big part of the problem.

moon 03-07-2019 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by Jumpseatcrawler (Post 2776946)
When me flow to American, They See... They See.

This. Oh man so good.

inevitableneb 03-07-2019 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Jumpseatcrawler (Post 2776946)
When me flow to American, They See... They See.

I'll work a 4 day with this guy.

buddies8 03-08-2019 07:03 AM

If management said we will be 200 airplanes and we are almost there then growth stops.
If we are reclaiming lost flying, we are still losing current flying to others.
As long as skw and compass are in lax there will be no growth. As long as rah is in Mia, dca and phl there will be no growth. As long as mesa and skw are in dfw there will be no growth.
They just move the shell so you cant find the peanut.


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